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[–] vahtos@programming.dev 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Some of that seems unnecessary (device boot time). But it's not all scary spooky tracking. Some permissions/information is required for certain features.

For example, you can't rotate your app UI if you're not allowed to know screen orientation. Or maybe they do a low power mode if device battery is low, or a warning that the app might not function well if the OS or device is old.

Not saying you're wrong or that Discord is right. Just pointing out that a long list of permissions isn't on its own a bad thing, if those permissions are required for specific features, and not just for the sake of data harvesting.

[–] Funwayguy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why though I appreciate what DDG is doing, it's not informing users about the context of what these permissions are used for, leading to a lot of fear over the wrong things. The data may not even be leaving the device but the implication DDG makes is that it is.

As a side note, I prefer to use DNS66 to filter data and ads by domain, then manually set my Android app permissions as needed.

[–] Metallibus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is one hundred percent sensationalism. Just because the app pulls it doesn't mean that it's being used to track you down. It's probably just for crash reporting etc.

[–] Funwayguy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Lets also not forget the massive amount of OS versions, hardware variants, resolutions, and localisations apps like Discord need to auto-adjust themselves to work with. If it fails it will absolutely need that info in the report so devs can fix it.

[–] Metallibus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

A lot of these are just standard things that things like crash reporters pull. In other words, Discord probably included a crash reporter in their app, and it pulls things like memory usage, device state, os version, what orientation the device is in, etc so that when a crash happen, it can tag those to the developers. Those are all useful variables to the developers to understand what is causing the crash.

Tons of apps use crash reporters to keep their app stable. I'm sure most apps will pull the vast majority of this information. That doesn't mean that they're using it to track you.

[–] Tot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Certainly not all scary. I don't work with these that collect the data but wonder if it isn't just some deviceData.collect() function or something.

[–] AncientMariner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Device boot time could be used for a user that clears their cookies to track and match sessions. Using that, and matching it with other information could give very reliable ways to fingerprint users.