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[–] wetferret@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Frank Herbert must be rolling in his grave.

[–] yetiftw@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

this is exactly what he would have wanted

[–] Fermion@mander.xyz 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Have you read the books? He comes very close to endorsing incest, and he talks way too much about young teen sexual attraction and relationships.

A major plot point is a group of women who can so expertly perform sexual favors that they completely override the free will of men.

This is mild compared to what went on in his head.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's certainly... one interpretation of the bene gesserit, they aren't the Companions from Firefly

[–] Fermion@mander.xyz 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was thinking of the Honored Matres of the scattering, whom the bene gesserit despise largely because they rely on sexual manipulation rather than other forms of control and influence.

I probably should have specified that much of that is later in the series and not in the first book.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

And that isn't a description of the companions from firefly either? They were high society and sex was only a small part of what they did. But more importantly...they really didn't do anything to override anyones free will?

Unless you mean yosafbridge? She had training but wasn't really a companion

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

A major plot point is a group of women who can so expertly perform sexual favors that they completely override the free will of men.

Said it before and say it again. Dune only makes sense if you remember that every character you see is a product of multiple generations of incest, religious zealots, and useless idle royality.

The entire power of the Bene Gesserits could be defeated with 40 cents set of ear plugs, or hiring gay guys, or straight women, or deaf people, or straight men on libido blockers, or asexuals, or stubborn people, or people who speak a different language...

Their power is using sexy voice. Some random teenager with a slingshot is more dangerous.