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submitted 1 year ago by Zyratoxx@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml

(No, just keep on. These kinds of regulations were long overdue)

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[-] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 235 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

EU has its many flaws but they pretty much doing their job in regards of consumer rights, human rights and protection of personal data.

[-] Zyratoxx@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

If we could only fix that veto issue... And the parliament issue... Someday hopefully :')

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.de 35 points 1 year ago

Hungarian is against fixing the Veto Issue!

[-] Chadus_Maximus@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago
[-] Zyratoxx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If Article 17 (Upload filters) didn't make it through I cannot see chat control making it (even tho I think we shouldn't even let it get so far)

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

The worst part about chat control is that they proposed it without having a single clue as to how this would be set up, let alone managed and controlled.

Them not being able to give clear answers to absolutley valid and fair questions just breaks more trust in their competence.

Anyway, next I'd like them to ban anything that can be considered factory new e-waste, like cheap usb fans that break after a month, or keychain speakers that don't even sound good. There's so many things in production that just don't have any business existing.

[-] Zyratoxx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it was the same way with upload filters... Me and the boys were protesting, experts were saying it wouldn't work yet the EU politicians kept being stubborn...

Yeah, I think they should ESPECIALLY ban these non refillable vape sticks... I mean, the batteries are practically unused yet it's more or less useless after being emptied. And there's always the refillable option. (No vapes would be best, get off that sh***)

[-] fritz@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

Human rights? Lol I wish, frontex is just waiting to start shooting migrants at the borders

[-] FarLine99@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Hope for same work direction in the future!

[-] Nioxic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The battery thing is for the environment

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The European Convention of Human Rights, the Council of Europe and its court looks after human rights, not the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights

[-] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You are right. My intention was to refer the whole of Europe as EU (which I know its incorrect) rather than go into specifics but regardless thanks for the clarification.

[-] Smallletter@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Question, do these bodies have teeth? And if so would these teeth exist without the EU?

My understanding of the EU is that the only thing they can really do to coerce uncooperative members is threaten to revoke membership.

So, if these bodies are not EU, and it wants to impose a sanction against a member nation, by what mechanism can it enforce that?

Just wondering.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, the ECHR does have teeth. The UK is still subject to its rulings despite brexit

UK is still a member of The Council of Europe, which is different to the European Council...

What is the ECHR? It is an international court, set up in 1959, to rule on individual or state applications alleging violations of the civil and political rights set out in the European convention on human rights. Its judgments are binding on the 46 Council of Europe member states that have ratified the convention.

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2022/jun/15/what-is-the-echr-and-how-did-it-intervene-in-uk-rwanda-flight-plans

The EU cannot threaten revoking membership of the EU, there is no mechanism to expel a member state. There is only article 50 for the state leaving of its own accord, or suspension of rights

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_7_of_the_Treaty_on_European_Union

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