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Chromecast with Google TV is now serving full-screen, auto-playing Chicken Tender Wrap ads
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As an AppleTV user I’m honestly shocked folks are ok with their product they paid for having advertisements on it like that anyways?
It’s one thing to advertise a show or an app / service that is in the App Store but another to show actual ads.
It’s weird to me.
Then again, you and your advertisement ID are googles business.
We are not okay with it.
But else you have this, some flavor of AndroidTV + Launcher, an AppleTV which probably doesnt have feature parity with all apps available for the AndroidTV or you setup your own device which involves (probably) work.
I’m not sure what app feature parity you are talking about, unless it’s a specific application for android(?)
For what it’s worth the Apple ecosystem is the “popular/trendy” one and businesses will cut their balls off to have their app work well on Apple stuff. I say that entirely from a “Apple is the zeitgeist” not one is better than the other standpoint.
Lmao no. The apple ecosystem is not the popular/trendy one, it's the expensive one where devs must pay a license to publish their apps. There's tons of open source apps that publish to the play store but don't publish in the apple store because it costs them money to do so. I use several apps that don't have parity in ios. TachiyomiSY, Wow (weather app that apparently was published to the iPad store, not the iPhone store..., it has no ads, customizable interface and it can connect to the local weather provider which is usually the most accurate), Notify (app that let's me configure extra stuff on my MiBand), Boost (no, voyager's interface sucks for me), newpipe(! There's a newpipe in ios but it's another app and has ads lmao).
Basically, if you want popular brand company apps, sure, they will be on ios, but I bet you they will be on android too, if not earlier because it's free to publish and nowadays if we are honest you can develop a single app with react native and voilà, make it into a functional app in both systems with minimal effort. However, the difference exists on the open source apps, on the small apps created by small devs that offer stuff for free, those don't publish into apple because it would cost them 99 USD per year just to be able to publish.
Can Apple have third party home screens?
No, that would allow someone to take over the device.
However, it does wake up to whatever app was last running so the difference is likely semantic.
Mine are always in the Plex app, even on TVs that have Plex apps because they cannot return to the exact same Plex screen.
It's weird that people are dropping hundreds or thousands on a tv only to cheap out on the device they are presumably using to stream their pirated content.
I have Apple TVs that have outlived their original TVs. From what I'm reading here many people are on their third or fourth chrome cast. Silly.
Folks who hate Apple will never see the product as good.
The earlier CCs were slow and/or had less features.
Sorry but I don't like being stuck at 720p.
Also they are very cheap so replacing them is hardly of any value and you can still gift them to anyone else in need.
Nope
The only app I've run into without an official Apple TV flavor is Jellyfin, but there are two alternatives in the app store.
Unsure if there is anything like new pipe that can eliminate YouTube ads on Apple TV but that's really nice too.
What I meant with parity was the app catalogue.
For example some (F)OSS devs may only be available for AndroidTV.
Maybe not officially in the store but you can still sideload them to some extent.
Is that even possible for devices like the AppleTV?
You can sideload apps on Apple TV.
So unusual for Apple but very welcomed move.
We’ve been able to sideload on iOS for quite some time.
There have been jailbreaks (equivalent to a root) for iOS devices for quite some time, newer devices take more time to break but it always gets there.
There is a lot of misunderstanding and tech bro tribalism around android and Apple that makes folks blind to what the other has and does
further driving this tribalism is how my iPhone auto capitalizes Apple and iPhone properly but happily ignores chrome and android and google
If I need to jailbreak/root my phone to sideload it's a workaround.
I mean sideload as a feature without hacking my device and with that (to some extend) compromise security.
You can sideload apps without jailbreaking.
Since you started talking about iOS, do you actually mean the phone OS or ATV?
Because if phone OS: Since when were you able to sideload? Apple is still restricting it actively for all users and only now users in the EU will have the supposed option.
There have been tools to side-load apps for a while, it’s not an official process supported by Apple.
I haven’t had the need or want to sideload anything in a while so I’m not on top of it right now, but sideloadly appears to be the current tool for it.
I’m talking about both however.
I can hardly call that an intended feature and more a workaround very targeted to devs and not to customers.
The app may take care of it but...oh boy....
I have an android tv from Sony which is basically android tv without any kind of skin AFAIK. No ads. I had suggested videos from apps and stuff but hat was configurable and removed years ago.
A single apple TV is like $80 more than Google TV devices to do the same thing. I don't like the ads and they irritate me, but I have 4 TVs with streaming boxes (so I don't have to replace the screens. I'm not paying an extra $360 just to not have ads on the home screen.
It's just a situation where I'm not really okay with either option.
Most of the time it's this, rarely mcdonalds or Harvey's has an ad like this you need to hover over for several seconds to play, intentionally, and people turn it into rage bait garbage posts.
90% of the time it's just an add for a TV show or movie, and you still have to purposefully hover over it unmoving to start it playing, it's pretty opt in.
I don't even notice it, the ad starts out small at the top and your cursor starts out on the Apps row, you have to very intentionally trigger the ad.
90% of the time the ads are for movies or TV shows on the streaming services you have installed (and presumably an account for) anyways, so there's been non zero times where I did go abd hover the ad to watch it cuz I was like "oh hey I actually wanna watch that, is it coming out soon? No shit!"
The other 10% if the time it's mcdonalds or Harvey's or whatever, I barely notice it as I spend pretty much all of my time with the Google tv "inside" an app.
Very little time gets spent on the home screen, it's a glorified Start menu to pick an app and open it up, so I don't, to be blunt, give much of a shit that for half a second I can see a big Mac at the top of my TV screen before I click the 1 button to open Netflix.
Also more often than not I use my phone app to push to the TV, so my process is:
TV is turned off atm, I open on my phone (Netflix, Disney plus, crunchyroll, Amazon prime, YouTube, etc)
I click the cast button on my phone
TV auto detects activity, starts turning on, meanwhile my chromecast is already loading up the app and booting into it
By the time my TV screen flips on, the app is opened as well and my content starts to play, so u never even saw the home screen in the first place
End result: I rarely even see the app realistically anywho.
I guess to me I’m just confused that they have a spot to show ads to the user.