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Is the bot/troll situation getting worse? (lemmy.giftedmc.com)

submitted 10 months ago by haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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It feels like the amount of both, divisive posts and ghoulish comments is rising again.

One could argue that the world has a lot of divisive stuff going on and lemmy just talks about it. But the way people post about stuff seems more oot and hateful than it has been in the past.

Not saying it is that but if I wanted to bring the Fediverse down or at least keep my customers from going there, I would sow this stuff as much as I can.

I'm blocking ghouls left right and center atm but if I ever asked a friend to join lemmy, I'd hate to think of what they would see that I dont anymore.

Do we need stronger moderation?

Maybe ban politics from c/memes?
Become a little more stringent on "dont be a jerk" rules in communities?

One thing that really bothers me is the collapsing "discourse". Trying to mend fences and keep the conversation between sides going ime leads to nothing but downvotes and shitstorm.

I feel like a little more interaction (instead of intervention, at first) of the moderators would do wonders there.

Thanks for reading this rant. Have a nice day.

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[–] doidera 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Election year in the US and EU while Russia is invading a neighbor and China possibly preparing to do the same.

Interesting you don't mention Israel doing a fucking GENOCIDE and the USA supporting it.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They event, while deplorable, doesn't really generate new bot flow. The same conservative and Russian style bots are already up and running.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't think the US and Israel have an online presence pushing propaganda? I've noticed some odd voting patterns on some posts relating to the genocide and recent bombings.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I never said that. Of course they do. But they've always been here.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Israel ramping up their genocide so significantly and a new US military campaign in the Middle East seems like a great reason to increase propaganda activity. I have a feeling it will only continue to get worse as the conflict spreads.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

A fair consideration.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago

This is the kind of commitment the post is taking about.

[–] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Give it a rest.

[+] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world -7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No, the US is not supporting genocide.

When the Jewish people took the motto NEVER AGAIN what, exactly, did you think that meant? Did you think it would mean "oh please, Sir, don't hurt us please?"

Hamas, seeking the elimination of the Jews of Israel decided to find out, and used their own population as shields.

You reap what you sow.

[–] doidera 3 points 10 months ago

Why are they atacking Jordan then?

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hamas seeks no such thing and your blind acceptance of what is inherently a racist perspective based on Islamophobia is extremely telling.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it'd be real fucked up if Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis, all allied and interconnected Iran-backed terrorist groups, had direct calls for jihad and genocide in their charters and mottos, or founder and leader quotes saying they are glad Israel exists because it saves them the trouble of hunting the Jewish diaspora

OH WAIT

THEY DO

If you want to talk about violence, any level of violence, as a legitimate response to colonialism, especially when it enters the ethnic cleansing stage, fair enough, but don't pretend they're not genocidal fuckwits themselves with plenty of proof for their intentions.

If you want to know why Lemmy is full of pissed off people fighting in the comments it's because half the people who comment on Lemmy have the fact checking ability of a mentally incapable squirrel and they'll repeat any damn thing they hear.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The leadership explicitly refuses to repudiate the old charter that called for genocide, and has directly said they can't do that politically, or even call it a replacement.

It shouldn't be too hard to figure out why, you sure as hell wouldn't be pretending you don't understand why MAGA leaders won't criticize the Confederacy or the KKK.