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Maryland House Democrats introduced a controversial gun safety bill requiring gun owners to forfeit their ability to wear or carry without firearm liability insurance.

Introduced by Del. Terri Hill, D-Howard County, the legislation would prohibit the “wear or carry” of a gun anywhere in the state unless the individual has obtained a liability insurance policy of at least $300,000.

"A person may not wear or carry a firearm unless the person has obtained and it covered by liability insurance issued by an insurer authorized to do business in the State under the Insurance Article to cover claims for property damage, bodily injury, or death arising from an accident resulting from the person’s use or storage of a firearm or up to $300,000 for damages arising from the same incident, in addition to interest and costs,” the proposed Maryland legislation reads.

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[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

im not making a case that bears are the onay reason to own a gun. i'm saying there are bears in maryland, and thats enough reason to own a gun there.

dallas has rattle snakes.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If bears are enough of a reason to own a gun in downtown Baltimore, you can tell me exactly how many bear attacks there have been in the U.S. in the last 10 years.

Then tell me how many people in Dallas have been killed by rattlesnakes (which sneak attack).

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

the fact they live within a few miles is all the reason i need.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

See, the funny thing is that I know that there have been a grand total of two bear attacks in Maryland's entire history, both non-fatal, 46 fatal bear attacks total in the U.S. in the last 10 years. I also know that no one in Dallas has been killed by a rattlesnake.

Reasoning that guns need to be legal in Baltimore because of two non-fatal bear attacks in the state's entire history is ludicrous reasoning.

If you think that guns should be legal, come up with a better argument than 'defense from something that almost never happens.'

I mean how about defense from people? Why did you have to go with something ludicrous like mountain lions? You really can't come up with a non-ridiculous scenario where a gun might be needed in a city?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not up to you to determine how much danger do I need to be in before I'm allowed to prepare for that danger.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's up to me to determine that your reasoning for legal guns is silly and cowardly and there are dozens and dozens of better reasons for legal guns which are neither silly nor cowardly.

Why you literally didn't go with 'home self-defense from intruders' when that actually happens to people I don't know. Instead you go with 'I need an AR to protect myself from rattlesnakes' which, granted, has given me a good laugh this morning, but it's the worst reason I have ever heard anyone make for legal guns.

Honestly, I'm starting to think you're some sort of troll account for someone who is actually against legal guns.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

An AR would be a TERRIBLE choice for a rattlesnake.

That's why they make these: :)

https://www.bondarms.com/bond-arms-handguns/snake-slayer/

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

>I need an AR to protect myself from rattlesnakes’ which, granted, has given me a good laugh this morning, but it’s the worst reason I have ever heard anyone make for legal guns.

this is an appeal to ridicule. it is not a rebuttal.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Trying to do the 'this is not a logical argument' thing when you just lied about what I said in another thread is not going to work very well.

Especially when you are trying to go with 'protection from mountain lions' over 'protection from home invaders' as a reason to have guns legal.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

this is just poisoning the well.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know you think you know terms from a college formal logic class you probably never took, but you have still lied about me twice now in another thread and you still have made the worst argument for legal guns I have ever heard.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

this is more poisoning the well. poisoning the well is a form of ad hominem, and personal attacks are expressly prohibited on lemmy.world and this community.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That is neither ad hominem nor a personal attack. You did lie about me twice. Right here: https://kolektiva.social/users/bigMouthCommie/statuses/111867533172612302

Are you going to deny it now? Will this be lie number three?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Even if I did lie about you which I didn't that doesn't change whether what I'm writing in this thread is true. You're attacking the person here by saying "this person did a thing therefore you shouldn't listen to them." it's textbook poisoning the well. it's an ad hominem. it's a personal attack.

qed

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

which I didn’t

You did. I linked to it. First you said I was saying someone shouldn’t own a gun, which I did not, then you said I was arguing with them, which I was not. Both were lies. So that is lie number three.

You’re attacking the person here by saying “this person did a thing therefore you shouldn’t listen to them.”

And this is lie number four. I never suggested anyone shouldn’t listen to you.

it’s a personal attack.

I have never once attacked you personally. That is lie number five.

qed

You have demonstrated nothing, but I will not call that a lie, I will chalk that up to you likely not knowing what "quod erat demonstrandum" means.

Also, did you delete this post once just so you could add 'qed' to the end? It's "Q.E.D.," incidentally.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

The easiest way to deal with a bear in downtown Baltimore is to tell them you aren't into large, hairy dudes.