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What’s a “sovereign citizen “?
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You know how lawyers shout "objection!" in court and it causes things to happen? Sovereign Citizens believe all laws work that way. If you find the right words, phrase, or document, you can bend the legal system to your will.
It's kind of like thinking the law works like Magic The Gathering. Sorry officer, but I counter your "diving with a suspended licence" attack with my "I'm travelling not driving" spell!
I almost feel bad for them because in some ways the legal system is a game that can be bent to your will. It's just that the best spells cost millions of dollars to cast.
Boom! This is kinda true. People encounter the legal system, get fucked, get off, or get by, and they see that words mean things in that system. I get where they're coming from.
When I was in my 20s I fucked around a bit, nothing heinous, but found there's a difference in pleading nolo contendere and not guilty.
My lawyer tore shit up in my child custody case. Because he knew the law, and how the game is played, we kicked my ex-wife's ass all over the room. (She was also hilariously wrong in nearly everything she did to us. Because she had legal opinions and not facts.)
Little off topic, but for the sovereign angle, Americans can tell their bank to get fucked on NSF charges. It's a phone call, and it's backed by law.
I got evicted by a foul and senile landlord in the day. All on me because I couldn't produce the signed agreement, he "lost" his copy, claimed it never existed.
I got fucked out of my apartment because my roommate had the lease changed without my knowledge. Should have fought that one.
(These items are long in the past, I'm not so ignorant now. But I'm still ignorant!)
You learn these things as you navigate the world, and for these dumbassess, it seems like magic. Saying the right words works in many cases! Or better yet, not saying a damn thing. Been fucked on that one a time or three!
It's a simple-minded view of the world. What kills me is that their non-stop failures don't get them to reconsider their actions. I know, they're told they didn't say the words or return the coupon or whatever the fuck, but they just keep coming back for more ass kicking?! Fuck me. I know when I'm down. I'll give up.