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Critiscing the actions of the state of Israel does not equal antisemitism
The volleyball team didn't kill any Palestinian children.
So how about don't discriminate against them based on where they were born?
You didn't read the story did you? They didn't shake their hands because one of the players accused the Irish team of being antisemitic. This was published the official team website
Shame on you for not reading the article.
First the Israeli team insulted them as being antisemitic, obviously because Ireland stands with Palestine.
Therefore they refused to exchange politenesses in advance of the game.
It was the Israelis who started behaving badly. You know just like the conflict that didnβt start on October 7.
Maybe read the article before you make inaccurate statements?
They didn't shake their hands because one of the players accused them of being antisemitic in an interview published on the team website
Sorry we don't support genocide.
TIL playing volleyball = genocide when you're born in the wrong country.
Is the purpose of international sport not to represent your country? The country currently murdering innocent civilians in their open air prison.
The purpose for the players is to play their sport.
They did play the sport, they didn't shake hands with those representing a country engaged in war crimes.
Ever heard of conscientious objectors?
Seriously, you could have at least read the article to get the sport right.
Probably would have helped with grasping the situation better. They did play, they just didnt want to be insulted as anti-semitic without a reason.
How do you reconcile the two? The Israelis have murdered indiscriminately across refugee sites and civilian cities. They are targeting protected buildings, using collective punishment and are responding far out of what would be considered in kind.
https://www.npr.org/2023/10/31/1209763194/the-latest-on-israels-bombing-of-the-largest-gazan-refugee-camp
https://www.reuters.com/world/un-experts-say-israels-strikes-gaza-amount-collective-punishment-2023-10-12/
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israels-alleged-undercover-killings-occupied-west-bank-hospital-may-amount
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/damning-evidence-of-war-crimes-as-israeli-attacks-wipe-out-entire-families-in-gaza/
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-shifa-hospital-ce8fda9821a011a6cb6e4a3df5c90916
https://www.npr.org/2024/01/21/1225883522/palestinian-death-toll-soars-past-25-000-in-gaza-with-no-end-to-war-in-sight
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/05/gazas-children-face-catastrophe-as-death-toll-nears-4000-un-warns
Enjoy the read you fascist bootlicker
They won't. At best they're a sealioner. I'd move on
Sealioner?
Ayyy! There is a nuance in being pro Israel and being pro Israel. Simply stating that you're pro Israel, doesn't cut it.
It's easy get peace when everyone else is dead. Pity you have to murder indiscriminately to get to that point.
Your proof is in my other comment not that I expect you to actually read it but just so others can see the evidence you deny.
Actions speak louder than words bud! Israel killing ten times as many Palestinians than the other way round for decades definitely does. Of course that was up until last October, since when the difference is far wider.
Omfg thereβs no way a sane person could believe that.
Am Irish btw. No love for hamas, but every sympathy with Palestinians. And full support for our basketball team.
How many of the 12,000 children killed in the conflict were combatants?
Are you absolutely shitting me? Proof of Israel killing civilians and kids? I take it youβre Israeli.
Don't engage, I provided proof and he didn't reply. He's a sympathizer to a fascist genocidal regime.
Yeah I already blocked him.
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Ah fuck off, keep believing the propaganda and ignoring the dead babies.
Well, you're making a fair point in some regards. I agree that the two state solution is forfait, but the general opinion is pretty pro-palestine on Lemmy. I respect your courage or ignorance in that regard. However, I think that any opinion is bullshit anyway. Hamas has done plenty to justify Israel's reaction, but Israel's reaction is completely off the shelf as well. I don't think we, regular folks, in the west, can not trust media coverage in this regard to form an unbiased opinion, because media coverage is just another battlefield these days.
How can you say that Israel's response is justified and overblown? It would have been justified to respond to the terrorist attack, it is a war crime to bomb hospitals and refugee camps. Israel has killed more toddlers, 2-6 year old children, since October than Hamas has killed in total in their attack and since.
A state has a right to defend itself but it's spineless to sit on a fence and call it centrist. Israel's response is ridiculous and if it was Iran we'd have lost our fucking minds already.
I don't agree that when you're gay, you should just dislike any muslim country, but I appreciate to hear your opinion about it. (I do agree that their treatment of gays is wrong though) I agree that that's what an online community shoul be about. Different folks discussing different opinions. That's what makes the internet awrsome, not advertisements and profits. Just discussions and closing the gap of polarisation.
There doesn't seem to be any evidence though. It looks like the Israeli team made unsubstantiated accusations so you can't really blame the Irish team for reacting.
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Oh good one. You really nailed me with that zinger.