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[–] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 59 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I deal with PTSD vets every day so I understand the snap buuuuut.... No one else gets to get away with a slap on the wrist because of their mental illness so fuckem

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. The "having PTSD" part isn't what should be punished, it's the "and yet still carrying a gun while putting yourself in a position to have your PTSD triggered like this" part that's egregious.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Well, Philip Brailsford, the murderer who murdered Daniel Shaver, claimed PTSD for murdering Daniel so he could draw on his pension and retire early. Because he murdered someone and it hurt his fee-fees.

Fuck that.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Indeed fuck that, but I don't see what it has to do with what I said.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I was making the point that even the “has PTSD” is egregious when it comes to cops.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean. Being in combat and being a cop are two different things.

Maybe this guy was in a shootout and has PTSD, maybe this is the only time he's ever fired on duty and he's just a coward who panicked.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

During the course of the investigation into the shooting, deputy Herandez resigned from the force.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow. Good for him. I'm honestly surprised.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Many times cops retire to avoid being investigated and move to a different department.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah at this point we should assume the worst until proven otherwise.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

And most of us would still wait for an actual target in a built up area.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

No where in the article does it mention PTSD.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

See I'm like, I don't even think you could qualify most of the things you would do to this guy as being punishment. Preventing this guy from being a cop forever (pretty unlikely, but could happen), isn't really a punishment. If he's discharging his firearm into his own car, he's obviously just unfit to be an officer and that's a pretty clear safety concern. If you sent him to prison, that might be more of a "punishment", but that's also, you know, what cops do basically their whole careers, is send people to prison, and we still have all the same problems with the prison system as we've always had, so, you know, I'm like. I dunno. That doesn't seem like a clear "win", to me, both in terms of improving society and in terms of helping him out if he's mentally ill which, you know, seems to clearly be the case, here.

You could also maybe think, hey, this guy goes to an asylum or something for mental illness, but that kind of has the same problems as sending someone to prison, it's not usually a helpful system.