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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh my god, that's literally the point of the whole comment. You are offering a perfect solution, while the only alternative you offer is a bad solution. EVs are not perfect. They are an okay solution that is better than remaining on ICE.

That was literally the point. Small towns with populations of <10,000 are not going to build rail in the next decade. I would love for them to, but they're not going to! So you're solution for them to get to town where groceries are is to... continue using ICE while sitting on their hands waiting for rail/bus service that is not coming? If that's your best solution then it's not a solution.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh my go that's literally the point of my whole comment. You stated that EVs are a good solution. They are not a solution at all.

It's not a matter of perfect being the enemy of good, it's a matter of people mistakenly thinking that personal EVs are a solution. They are not a solution at all, they only serve as placebo to make people feel good while while continuing the same habits and relying on the same infrastructure that caused all this in the first place.

That was literally the point. Continuing with the same sprawling, oversized infrastructure built for personal, usually single-occupancy vehicles is not going to solve climate change. We are so far gone the only real, actual, solutions are in fact drastic, society changing measures. So your solution is for us to keep doing the same thing we already are but with 20% less pollution? While the earth is already past the 1.5C global warming mark? If that's your best solution then it's not a solution.

EVs are here to save the automobile, not the environment.

[–] noobnarski@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

We are always going to need some cars, even with the best public transit available.

Builders, for example, need to transport their supplies to construction sites, etc.

I think thats where EVs are going to be a solution, and in the meantime they can be a stopgap to reduce emissions while improving the infrastructure.