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What can you get to within a 15-minute walk of your house? (mediacdn.aus.social)
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What can you get to within a 15-minute walk of your house?

A recent YouGov survey asked Americans what they think they should be able to get to within a 15-minute walk of their house.

Of these choices, I can currently walk to all of them from my apartment, aside from a university (no biggie, I'm not currently studying, although there is a Tafe within walking distance), a hospital, and a sports arena.

How many can you get to with a 15 minute walk from your house?

#fuckcars #walkability #urbanism #UrbanPlanning @fuck_cars #walking

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Bars should definitely be 15 minute walk. Anything to disincentivize driving there.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

For a lot of people the bar serves as a "third place" as well which is an important part of many communities.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

True, I have a local bar that I use as one of two primary third places. It’s a place I go to just hang out or attend groups. Is it good that our main third place sells an addictive substance? Not really, but it’s fun and it is a source of community and culture.

Third places are a fundamental part of society and if 15 minute cities don’t have a variety easily accessible to you then it’s going to make the place worse to live. That means everything from religious centers to community centers to bars.

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

That means everything from religious centers

You're really gonna hate my stance on "a church in every neighborhood" then. I already know what that's like, I was born and raised in the bible belt.

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

I'd be more in favor if the third place dealt substances that were less addictive or at least the addiction was less lethal. Cafes, community centers, hookah lounges and parks come to mind

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's a big part of why i put bars in the "under 30 minutes travel" category: I don't want a lot of loud, raucous, drunk people flooding the neighborhood at 2 am after the loud, raucous building full of drunk people finally turns the volume down... But I also want people to have access to the things they like regardless of how I feel about them.

The whole point of the added facilities and all my stipulations was to create a rat utopia for humans — somewhere everyone feels fulfilled — not my own personalized hell where all the loud obnoxious party rats keep me (or any of my nonconsenting neighbors) up until 2 when I gotta be up in 4 hours for work.

And my asshole opinion is that if a 30 minute wait before you can get shitfaced is so unbearable you're willing to risk your life and others', you reeeeeaaaaaalllllllyyyy need to be kept away from intoxicants, not have easier access. I mean hell, if it's that bad just go to the grocery store that has every drug known to humans. It's cheaper and closer.

So fuck it, disencentivize driving by an ordinance that forbids parking anything bigger than a bicycle within a 30 minute walk of the bar, not by making it easier to become alcoholic. Plus it's my hypothetical ideal, and no one has cars anyway.