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About the only way we're going to actually have a democracy is if they consistently lose elections. That's going to mean volunteering, donating, and actually turning out to vote

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 105 points 8 months ago

"We didn’t get all the way there on January 6, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this, right here,” he said, gesturing to the crowd and holding up his fist.

Isn't it the way to get some alphabet agency on your ass? Dude doesn't only speak Jan 6 was a coup, he encourage people to do it again.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago

It's unbelievable that someone says this AND it is found to far exceed the speech and debate clause AND is held to account.

But then, most authoritarian leaders are initially I stalled under cheers of their own population. And mostly people know what they are voting for. The MAGA crowd seems to just be more open about it.

Just recently Indonesia voted for a guy who literally murdered his fellow countrymen as head of a special forces unit. But the youth think his TikTok dance is Soo cute, so they vote for the sweet grandpa with the cute dance. I hope they will be alright.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But the youth think his TikTok dance is Soo cute, so they vote for the sweet grandpa with the cute dance.

Excuse me, wtf, how it's even real: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dRF4nUIRAAA

[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Prabowo is a fucking monster, and much like other worldwide monsters, he was trained at Fort Bragg by US special forces.

Then even The US said "This guy is too war crimey even for us. We're going to deport you, but do keep in touch. Especially about those East Timor rebels. They look suspiciously anti-capitalist".

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago
[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 months ago

Bizarre, and at the same time devilishly clever. It looks like a modern adaptation of nazi's sieg heil or some other cultish gestures if you think of it. He's associated with more than an image or a voice, but with a dance one sees and repeats. And it's a very visual, albeit looking innocent, sign of support that can easily turn in more people. And mass dance can be triggered, just like a wave on a stadium, by a dozen of provocators who'd start it...

I hope his PR team would be the first to enjoy what they created.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

The speech and debate clause only covers members of Congress and Senators, and only for their debates in those respective houses. It dates back to when traveling to Washington might take several days, through several states, and they didn't want members to be subject to arrest if some random Mayor or Sheriff didn't like what they said.

This guy is not a member of Congress and can't use that as a shield.

[-] Badeendje@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Cool, did not know the origin of it.

The FrEeDoM oF SpEaCh argument then.

[-] Neon_Shadow@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Some of those who work forces...

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 8 months ago

... Are actually miniature horses? (I heard miniature horses are pretty racist)

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Sir this is a conservative oligarchy not a Wendy's. Rules are only for anyone we declare to be too far left.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

FBI would be the ones with jurisdiction, and they are mostly right wing. There's never been a director of the FBI that wasn't registered Republican. That should tell you just how likely they are to take this threat seriously.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago

FBI are cheering along at home, let's be real. That organization has some some heinous shit in the service of white supremacy.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Well, if he was, say, a Black progressive saying such things, it would be something to get an alphabet agency looking into it, maybe even a visit from an agency, and actually cancelled nearly everywhere.

But, IOKIYAR.

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