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Yeah, okay dude. Say what you want about Israel, but defending Hamas is not it.
You believe that you can lie about everything Hamas does and anyone that disproves it is a terrorist?
No, but we can agree both groups are equally shitty. Anyone running defense for Hamas is really confused and misinformed. Same goes for defending the Houthis. They are all -IDF, Hamas, Houthis- awful.
You're just making up lies to cover for israel's genocide and then pretending everyone is the same when called out.
Hamas has not raped anyone. But you know who has? Israel.
Israel rapes women and sexually violates little girls.
The Houthis haven't even killed a single person in their blockade and you're comparing them to Nazi's. Your claims are distant from reality.
I'm attacking Houthis- so by default I must be defending Israel (even though I called them out in my exact post)? Are you...stupid? I said they're ALL REALLY SHIT. STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH YOU IMBECILE. if you love the Houthis so much, go live in Yemen as a woman or a gay person and see how long you last you cretin.
No you're out here pretending everyone is the same after OP's propaganda gets debunked. Which is a cop out.
And now you're trying to pinkwash Genocide which is another cop out.
Just admit OP was making up lies to manufacture consent for Genocide and move on.
Oh for ffs. I'm not the one running defense for Hamas and the Houthis or Israel. YOU ARE. If you love them so much, you best be ready to defend all the human rights atrocities happening in Yemen right now. You guys have no idea what you're talking about. I've lived in the region.
You know how that gets solved? By not bombing Yemen and Gaza into oblivion.
The reason those governments were able to rise to power is because of American imperialism overthrowing governments that didn't do these things.
Unless you think that bombing all the gays in Gaza out of existence is going to solve the problem, I don't see why you think it would be wrong what the Houthi's are doing to stop israel's Genocide.
CommonDreams: Why We Must Reject the Pinkwashing of Genocide in Gaza
Stopping the bombing in Gaza will not make Hamas reverse course overnight. In fact, there was no bombing happening before October 7 when Hamas crossed over and butchered 1200 people. I'm glad the West has suddenly woken up to what is happening in this region yesterday because of what's going on now with the IDF going full on genocide in the Gaza strip, but this conflict is far deeper and started long before Oct 7. Picking one of the parties (regardless if it's the Houthis, Hamas , or Israeli Defense Forces) and ignoring everything that happened preceding Oct 7 is extremely naive. We need a ceasefire now, and we need the Palestinians to come to the table without Hamas (or the PLO) and we need Netanyahu's ethnic centic cabinet replaced. All this talking in circles about who is right or wrong is not going to lead to any actionable plan. Legitimizing the Houthis won't bring about any meaningful progress to this region.
Do you know the Houthi's will lift their blockade the second that a ceasefire is reached? That is literally their condition for the blockade. The Houthi's have already proven to stop their attacks during the temporary ceasefire we had before. And after ceasefire ended they continued.
This not true either. Israel had actually been increasing their bombing of Gaza each year. Not to mention israel's blockade of food and clean water for Gaza.
Hamas actually tried a peaceful demonstration in 2018 and israeli snipers were having competitions on how many people's kneecaps they could snipe. And they killed many people then too.
Consider watching this video from far before 7 Oct for some more background on the conflict from the Palestinian side.
Oh man, and before October 7 Hamas and the Houthis were just the most nicest people ever. How dare anyone retaliate against their suicide bombings and incessant Rocket launches. And the Houthis, oh man! Just the best people
Now go read on what was there before there was Hamas. Hint: israel doing Genocide.
Israel multiple times brought peace deals to the table and each time the Palestinians walked away. It doesn't matter if we dig up the whole historical record: It won't change the disgusting behavior of Hamas or Israel.
But anyone running defence for Hamas is really out of touch with the last six decades of conflict in the region. You can reduce it to "Israel was doing a genocide" but that's a meaningless statement spoken un a vacuum and anyone whose actually lived there or familiar with the history of the region will just look at you with a puzzled look.
This is also a complete falsification of history. Conveniently ignoring the Likud party assassinating Rabin too when the Palestinians were about to accept a deal.
And it is still not relevant as stealing 90% of the land doesn't make you a good guy when you give 10% back. Furthermore there is no justification for entrapping two million people in a concentration camp for 20 years.
For a better understanding consider this video
You're kinda missing the point and seeing the trees for the forest. I don't know how to discuss this with you any longer. If all IDF bombing stopped tomorrow, Hamas will still continue its relentless attacks until it achieves its goals. Nothing will change. Pretending Hamas is some noble liberation army is incredibly misguided. They will not stop until all of Israel has been exterminated. Both sides in this conflict are relentless and to say otherwise is to be incredibly ignorant. Also, you gotta stop with the YouTube links. YouTube is not a primary source for any type of political discussion.
No there was a ceasefire in November and Hamas kept it well.
Only israel violated it twice. Which is tradition as every ceasefire gets violated by israel.
Hey, look at that. If you go back in time you can find enough atrocious actions committed by both sides:
Hamas Breaches Ceasefire
Do we need to play the "snipe the event that fits our narrative" game now? I can't believe the lengths you are going to defend Hamas. We can condemn Israel, but we don't need to defend Hamas in order to do that. What part is about this is confusing to you?
Reports say that israel just started blasting their siren but no actual rockets were observed. Then israel started bombing Gaza again
Are you saying that if I go back in time, I will never find a ceasefire being breached by Hamas? Are you saying that if I go back in time and dig up, I will never find an occurrence of Palestinians walking away from peace deals?
If you need to go back in time 50 years to find examples consider restricting yourself to the current conflict.
Plenty of calls for peace were made in the last 10 years and israel was the party refusing all of them by further annexing the west bank and increasing their blockade and bombings of Gaza.
So we can close our eyes and pretend the last fifty years are inconsequential, right? Is that how Israeli people see it?