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[–] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you done repeating your npc lines?

What you seem to understand but refuse to accept is that Israel is a settler colonial state commiting genocide and ethnic cleansing on the Palestinian people. In fact Israel's whole foundation was an illegitimate state being created by ethnically cleansing the local population.

Hamas( qassam brigades) is a legitimate armed resistance against an occupier ( Israel). In fact, according to international law, Hamas has more legitimacy defending themselves against Israel than Israel does to "defend" itself from the people they are occupying.

Israel has been the colonial occupier for 75 years. Ever since then they've been conducting terror campaigns of ethnic cleansing against Palestinians. And now their genocidal intentions are plain for even the most unwilling to see.

So when someone says death to Israel, they mean death to the settler colonial genocidal state of Israel. So saying that absolutely does make sense. And hopefully from that will come a single secular state where the Palestinians can live as equals with israelis, and not be treated as subhuman slaves.

So I'm telling you all of this to hopfully spark some awareness in you, if not now then maybe sometime you'll think back on this. But i know you'll probably just continue trolling. One can only hope for the best.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

where the Palestinians can live as equals with israelis

  1. That's impossible, the colonizers and the colonized can never live as equals.

  2. Kicking out colonizers is cool and good, actually.

[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's impossible, the colonizers and the colonized can never live as equals. Kicking out colonizers is cool and good, actually.

Strip them of their special status and they’re no different. I believe many ex-Israelis would have to stay and accept that they’ve lost their privilege/work for the nation on equal footing.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Regardless of equality under the law, there will always be tension and straight up racism. And considering there are more Israelis than Palestinians, the system will inevitably begin to favor Israelis again. It will become an informal system like America today rather than a formal system like South African Apartheid or American segregation.

[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Well the reason I said "many" is because it's obvious a huge number would leave voluntarily when their colonial wreck is overthrown, and another number would have to be repressed/deported. Hard to believe this majority would stand then if we understand that the reason these settlers stay is because of the privilege they have and the stolen goods they reap.

[–] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 months ago

You're correct, maybe i worded it incorrectly. I feel like the dual nationalty holders should go back to their original countries and Jews who were born there can appeal for citizenship, after a hell of a lot of reperations. Israelis shouldn't exist in the new secular state because it should be a new country.