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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And instead, a genocide will still be on, and also more women will go to prison for seeking medical care, and also my LGBT friends will have their rights eroded even more, and also the new president will annoint more christofascist Godkings to the Supreme Court ensuring that any attempt to vote for an actual leftist in the future is impossible, and it'll be fine, because at least you didn't vote for the guy that wouldn't have done all that extra awful shit

A vote is not an endorsement, stop treating it like it is.

[-] regul@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

Wow that all sounds awful. Biden should really try to win in order to prevent that.

I suggest he make himself more appealing by being anti-genocide.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, he should, and if he doesn't, you still have to vote for him anyway, because the alternative is necessarily worse.

It absolutely sucks that Democrats are able to make zero effort and get votes based solely on the fact that they aren't Republicans, but that's the way it is. Vote in primaries, fight to make Republicans adopt better policies so that Democrats have to react, and vote blue in November, because the alternative is half the people in the community we're arguing in going to fucking jail for being trans.

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 8 months ago

you still have to vote for him anyway

fuck you, i won't do what you tell me

[-] kbotc@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Then you get someone pro genocide anyways, but you get to hold your head real high when your friends die because they had an etopic pregnancy. Good job.

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

that's not going to happen, so don't worry about my friends

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

That won't happen because you don't have any friends who are women or you don't have any friends in general? Because it absolutely will happen.

Maybe some mentally ill guy needs to kill himself in front of a pro-life rally for you to care first?

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

it won't happen because we take care of each other

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago

I didn't realize you lived in a Broadway play. I'm sure that mindset will help when federal bans/police come in.

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

not in a Broadway play, just with a bunch of anarchists.

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Same difference.

[-] PotatoKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago

And all those people who don't have anyone to take care of them? Oh that's right, you don't actually care about them. You only care about making yourself feel good.

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

You only care about making yourself feel good.

wrong

[-] PotatoKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

Okay, so you don't care about all the people who will be effected then.

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 months ago

of course I do. how bad faith would it be for me to accuse you of not caring about the people in Gaza? or the people who can't discharge their student debts?

[-] PotatoKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

The difference is I am trying to minimize the harm done and you are not. If biden doesn't win then trump does, that's the reality. The fate of the people in Gaza are not what this election dictates. No matter who wins the people in Palestinian (my people) will continue to be bombed. But you know what is effected by the winner? The fate of the women who need abortions and the fate of many trans people. That is what gets decided by this election.

You're not doing what you can to minimize the harm done, you are allowing through inaction the worst outcome.

The election will end with either trump or biden winning. If you don't vote for biden you are helping trump by making it easier for him to win.

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

If you don’t vote for biden you are helping trump by making it easier for him to win.

only a vote for trump helps trump

[-] PotatoKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago

I saw someone else post this

If 10 people vote and 5 go to Trump and 5 go to biden then you've avoided a Trump victory and allow for another round.

If in that 2nd round a person who voted for biden decides to go 3rd party now trump has 5 votes biden has 4 and the 3rd party has 1.

The person who switched to 3rd party helped Trump win along with the 5 who voted Trump. If you don't understand that then you're being purposefully obtuse. Or you could explain how that 3rd party vote didn't help Trump without responding with a thought terminating cliche

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

the only votes that help Trump are votes for trump. a vote for Jill Stein or cornel west is a vote against Trump. a vote against Trump doesn't help Trump.

your scenario presumes I would vote for Biden. I did that once in 2008. I haven't voted for a Democrat for president since and I won't be voting for Biden this year either.

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

You’re not doing what you can to minimize the harm done, you are allowing through inaction the worst outcome.

I'm voting for the best candidate, someone who won't bomb brown people.

[-] kbotc@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

How, exactly, do you have the knowledge and capability to take care of a medical emergency that will require what would legally be, a murder?

[-] Adubya@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Reminds me of CHOP

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 months ago
[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

What does this mean? You're going to give abortions for your friends because they can't legally receive the life-saving medical care they need from doctors?

You know how often this sort of thing used to kill people? You're cool having that blood on your hands?

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

I won't have any blood on my hands, unlike people empowering Biden or Trump.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Women dying of ectopic pregnancies, Mexicans being murdered at the border, and trans kids being beaten to death at their own schools might disagree about that.

But at least you can pretend that you did something to help, by doing nothing.

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

that's all happening now. Biden being in power makes no difference

[-] regul@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Nah. He knows what he needs to do to get my vote.

[-] core@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 months ago

A vote is not an endorsement, stop treating it like it is.

it is an endorsement.

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