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[-] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Have you heard of this miraculous thing called public transit? And there are things called panniers which are pretty cool too.

But frankly, if you don't have groceries within walking distance, your neighborhood and your zoning laws are very poorly designed.

And that's deliberate. Neighborhoods around the world are designed to require cars to live in, because of oil company lobbying, and also for "security", in order to keep out people too poor to own cars.

Getting rid of cars requires changing the various ways our cities are designed to make cars necessary. That's worth doing too.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 12 points 8 months ago

Living outside land of the free, I have like 4 grocery stores and 1 supermarket within 15min walking distance, and I don't live in a dense neighborhood.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 7 points 8 months ago
[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I used to live in a place that was somewhere between suburb and rural and I loved not being around people but I hated not being able to walk to get basic necessities. Now I live in the city and I have everything I could ever need within a 15 minute walk and I get to choose whether I pay for a car, a licence, plates, insurance, gas, maintenance and repair. This system really has us fucked into believing that this is the way it should be.

[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Can confirm. It takes an hour to walk to the city. I have 3 grocery stores within 10 min of walking (checked with Google maps too)

[-] sonori@beehaw.org 0 points 8 months ago

In this graph a bus would be a lot worse than a far given the massive size, aerodynamic brick wall, and constant stops.

[-] Ismay@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah but you have to divide the footprint by the average number of travelers.

[-] sonori@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

Which in non city environments with high frequency is often only a handful to a dozen at most. Not that it matters, as this graph doesn’t show or or try to compare per person, only calories per vehicle mile.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 8 months ago

My neighborhood pre-dates cars

[-] kattenluik@feddit.nl 3 points 8 months ago

It might've had grocery stores in it before, or tiny lawn stores and such. It might've also just been very poorly designed.

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