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"Degrowth Communism" will lead to political disaster for both the socialist left and the environmental movement (jacobin.com)
submitted 7 months ago by LibsEatPoop@hexbear.net to c/marxism@hexbear.net
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I haven't read Saito's books, or looked too deeply into degrowth as a movement. I just read this article and thought it made some good arguments against what it claims are Saito's understandings of Marx. I'm not sure I agree with everything, but I thought it was interesting enough to share.

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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

:fedcobin: gunpoint

but for real its beside the point whether marx said exactly what saito says he said, the whole world can't live like average american, having 2 tonnes of metals dug up for personal movement, shoveling yearly consumption of someone in sahel to heat up house leaking shit, and buying new tvs every 5 years. tv should work 20 years, phones should be used for 10 years etc. the fuck it is, except degrowth, degrowth of consumption?

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 7 months ago

At the same time, what's the point of talking about degrowth communism when communism is inherently stable and don't need growth? Is it just rebranding?

[-] pinguinu@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 7 months ago

I took it that way. Since the slogan is "degrowth communism", and not "degrowth socialism" I interpret it as what actual communism would look like in regards to production, and so imo it's pretty redundant

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