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"China isn't real Socialism because they have billionaires and corporations"
"Nordic Socialism is a better form of Socialism than Marxism-Leninism, because it's democratic and happiness is high in those countries"
Meanwhile, China has democratic elections and scores high on citizen happiness, and the Nordic countries also have billionaires and corporations. China has a ML government, while the Nordic countries are capitalist. Make it make sense.
As a Nordic person, let me say that nobody here thinks our system ever was "socialist". Welfare state, yes, social democratic, yes, but no socialism. I don't know who came up with the idea.
Besides, even the social democratic welfare state has been stripped down by neoliberal reforms since the 90s and is a shadow of what it used to be. The rhetoric is always the same: we can't afford this, we can't afford that, we have to privatize, we have to make cuts to save our welfare state, there's no alternative etc.