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How i feel on Lemmy
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this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2023
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What does "praising" mean? Being critical of what we learned in school about the USSR?
What does "communism" mean here? Advocating for the type of social democracy that's done pretty well in much of Europe?
I mean I know tankies "exist" but I rarely see them. Just because we're all critical of capitalism doesn't mean we're all dumb enough to want to re try what the soviet union did. It's almost like our kids will die under capitalism so we're willing to think outside the box for once.
Just because you've been blessed from limited exposure to lemmygrad (a Lemmy instance) doesn't mean everyone has been so lucky.
Yes, they literally pine for the USSR. Yes, they literally venerate Stalin. They're not just saying "capitalism bad", they're saying "the specific implementation of social and economic policies of the USSR is what we want".
If lemmygrad is what op is commenting on, they left it out of the image and caption.
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Ironically, they also ban communists
You could find plenty of Tankies back on Reddit with Sino and Genzedong
Look at state's created in the image of the USSR, like China. Everything they are doing today is correcting every single mistake made by past Communist leaders, both within China and the entire existence of the USSR from start to finish. You can't recreate the USSR, even if you wanted to, anyways. Unique conditions are unique. Anyone who tries to repeat the creation of something like the USSR without the same conditons as 1917 Russia would create a state that would be overthrown in a matter of months or maybe a few years.
I've never seen anybody advocate for recreating USSR the way it existed. What people actually say is that USSR managed to accomplish a lot of positive things despite the problems it had, and there are a lot of valuable lessons that can be learned from it both positive and negative.
It's also absurd that people keep fear mongering about existing Communist projects because each one of them is rooted in history, culture, and material conditions that it arose of. It's pretty obvious that if socialism ever came to the west then it would have its own unique characteristics based on western culture and values. These are idiotic arguments designed to shut down discussion and scare people away from even thinking about communism as an alternative to the capitalist hellscape they live under.
I'd love for the west to embrace more communist/socialist ideas into it's democratic system (and some would be wildly popular) but ya the people praising China and the former USSR like they are/were amazing are delusional. The communist sublemmy is freaking coocoo. It's just a bunch of china shills screaming into an echo chamber about how amazing China is and that the rest of the world are liars about China. I seriously saw someone making the claim that China is basically perfect and there's no criticisms that can be made.