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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Real-world CO2 emissions of cars are 20% higher than indicated. For plug-in hybrids they are 250% higher. (climate.ec.europa.eu)

submitted 7 months ago by hanrahan@slrpnk.net to c/collapse@lemmy.ml

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EDIT: the article is from the European Commission. This thing comes from a serious study based on hard facts and data. Check this comment by @wooster, who reported the data

It's not a typo: plug-in hybrids are used, in real word cases, with ICE much more than anticipated.

In the EU, fuel consumption monitoring devices are required on new cars. They studied over 10% of all cars sold in 2021 and turns out they use way more fuel, and generate way more CO2, than anybody thought.

The gap means that CO2 emissions reduction objectives from transport will be more difficult to reach.

Thruth is, we need less cars, not "better" cars.

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[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can't afford an electric car

[–] maketotaldestr0i@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

electric bikes a bad ass, just get a bike trailer . good for most stuff you use car for. you can produce your own electricity with just a couple panels at home to charge it. 10x-100x the efficiency of electric cars

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not taking an electric bike 45 miles to work lol I don't ride a bike period around here. There are no bike lanes, everyone drives like shit in brodozers, and way to many bicyclists get killed and maimed every year. I wouldn't mind a bike for going to the small town I live by, but I'm not dying to some shit head driving a truck that's never been off of pavement.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

No one is going to be able to live 45 miles from work in the future. Just sayin.