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[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 55 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Sounds like your dad has fuck all for a grasp on what socialism is

[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yup. The good part about it is that if I know the trip wire words to avoid, I can get him to agree on some really progressive things.

Like I got him to agree that history is uncomfortable and that victors tend to write history, so we should be critical in how we learn it and teach it. We should consider the perspectives of who "the losers" are to get a true grasp of what actually happened, and that the society you grow up in will shape your world view. Our history classes should confront these issues and teach events with consideration of different groups of people and how they were affected, even if it may make us uncomfortable.

Hmmm what does that sound like?

[–] blackluster117@possumpat.io 8 points 7 months ago

Sounds like The Great Replacement^TM^. BETSY, GET ME MY GUN!

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So many people and absolutely incapable of defining socialism or capitalism.

Every damn one of them has an opinion on both.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We want them both at the same time. We want to be winners, but we imagine that if we were, we would be fair, thereby creating a utopia.

People associate those words with their fantasies, not with the ideological tenets that actually define them.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The way should be socialism and collective help for the poor, free market capitalism and taking risks for the rich. The point is, the more you have, the less the system should help you. In many places, it's the other way around.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Socialism isn't public safety nets. You're referring to Social Democracy, ie Capitalism with strong safety nets, not collective ownership of the Means of Production.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Socialism=communism. Communism=red. Red looks like blood. Blood means someone might die. Socialism bad cuz it means dead people.

That's usually how conservatives who I have talked to look at it. 💀

So many lost causes...

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago

Oof.... Who's gonna tell (U.S) conservatives what their primary party color is?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 0 points 7 months ago

A boomer!? (presumably) There's a shock...