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What is the benefit of no systemd?
It's too popular and it works too well.
Not true, doesn't work well at all. It's bloated and full of bugs.
I literally haven't run into a single one in the whole time Arch has been using it.
(I installed Arch shortly before it switched to systemd and have been using it since without pause)
You must be running hardware not older than 4 or 5 years. Try running it on hardware 10+ years old.
What are the systemd bugs that are so bad? I kinda get the bloated comment, but I don't really mind when it serves its purpose
Closing handles on services that for god knows what reason, just hang. Also stopping and starting services again doesn't always work as intended.
That's interesting. I've never had any issues with systemd directly mainly with poorly setup default configs I'm a big fan of a centralised place to manage services. Works super well with podman quadlets
But I'm not too invested use whatever works for you I reckon
I'm also a fan of centralized places to handle things (I prefer having just one package manager, not the package manager and flatpak and pip and god knows what else), but there are other init/service managers.
The main benefit is that when people get tired of distro flame wars, they can move on to init system flame wars.
With the price of energy being what it is, people need the systemd flame wars to keep them warm!
No, I just don't like systemd. It's bloated and full of bugs. Just because almost every distro out there uses it, doesn't mean it's good.
I'm feeling warmer already, thanks!
OK, I have to admit, i kinda fell for it 😂.
It made me chuckle, so thanks for that!
Boasting, mainly.
I have no horse in this race, I don't have strong feelings about it either way as long as it works. But I can't help but notice that OP skipped replying to me.
OP said “bloated and full of bugs”.
I've been using Arch since shortly before they started using systemd and literally never ran into a systemd bug.
I have no clue at this point what “bloated” means. Maybe if everything works and you don't have to hack up your own solution all the time, that's “bloat”?