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[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's a huge amount of mass that was in motion. Who is disagreeing that it could take out a bridge? Also, bridges aren't usually designed to take so much force from that angle.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (5 children)

People are claiming it was a terrorist attack and such. Unsurprisingly, mostly on Newsmax and Fox News.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If this were a terrorist attack we'd have had a group release a statement claiming to have been done by them to begin with. The whole point of terrorism is to enact political change through the threat of coordinated acts of violence against the civilian population and infrastructure. These conservative clowns always want to think they're under attack to promote draconian laws to protect our "freedoms".

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

These conservative clowns always want to think they're under attack to promote draconian laws to protect our "freedoms".

Because they're the real terrorists.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Also they'd do it at rush hour, not at 1:30am.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That doesn't surprise me. I could see something like this being done in a terrorist attack. Of course, I wait for the evidence, and don't speculate wildly and publicly.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the whole "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" thing again.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's reasonable to ask questions, explore possibilities, and verify with evidence. What those "news" organizations are doing is beyond irresponsible.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Asking questions is fine. Saying that a boat which you can see on video destroying a bridge didn't destroy the bridge is entering into crazy territory.

When a plane crashes, "did a naked mole rat chew through the control wiring" is generally not a question people ask. Because that's a silly question.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree! A lot of people have just accepted that crazy is a fact now, which is itself crazy to me.

[–] Stampela@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

I mean… back in the 90’s the news from the other side of the world were kinda iffy, with obvious bullshit like a man in China having an hiccup for 30 years, or another being 200 years old, or the even more laughable idea of a school shooting in the US…

Crazy is normal.

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Of course, I wait for the evidence, and don't speculate wildly and publicly.

Yes, but think of the ratings and clicks garnered by speculating wildly and publicly! You’re missing out!

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen plenty of people not assuming a conspiracy, but instead believing shitty construction is to blame.

Clearly these people have never tried moving furniture before. It's not moving fast, but once things start going wrong a couch can and will easily push you through drywall.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People on the internet got tired of being COVID experts and Ukraine experts and Israel experts and have moved on to bridge experts.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've played polybridge. I can confirm that if a ship touches a bridge anywhere then it will break.

Look, everyone criticized me for choosing those minors as part of my interdisciplinary studies major, I'm going to enjoy this moment.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Andrew Sex Trafficer Tate said it, and people are parroting him.

[–] spacesatan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But aren't people saying that almost all saying they intentionally steered the boat into the support not that it was controlled demolition or something?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

People are saying both.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Not everyone even begins to comprehend the relationship between mass, motion, momentum and energy between a failed education and never having to use it in decades.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

A fully loaded 1300' ship, that weighs an absolute fuckton, drifts into a concrete and steel post holding up a heavy ass bridge. Said support column is engineered for holding up the heavy bridge and is not designed to be run into by a heavy ass ship. The heavy ass ship hit the column at 1:30 in the morning, aka it was dark out. Not sure why it's too much to comprehend to these people that the simple explanation is that someone fucked up real bad.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

The ‘someone’ is likely the management company cheaping out on repairs and maintenance, since as of now it seems like the captain of the ship did everything they could to stop it from happening (dropping anchor, trying to steer but being unable to from the power outage), but there’s only so much you can do about that amount of mass in motion.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

If an absolute fuckton is 100,000 tons, then yes, it indeed weighed an absolute fuckton.

Also the ship lost power, they radioed for tugs a minute and a half later, started dropping the anchor a minute after that. Radioed a mayday a minute after that. If you look at the video you can see smoke coming out of the exhaust indicating they were trying to get the engines going again. Just before hitting the pier you can see the ship started turning away, but it was to late.

Every indication is that it's an accident. But conspiracies are going to spread because it's what people like I guess.

[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you seen americans argue about 9/11?

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Avoid watching Americans argue whenever possible, including myself. 😅