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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's the dictionary definition and the "how it plays out in the real world" definition. It isn't defined as a system pushing for constant growth, but due to its competitive winner-take-all nature it becomes a matter of grow or die.

[–] eveninghere@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'd be happy if you can cite the source of your "how it plays out in the real world" definition, if you want to argue that it's a commonly agreed definition.

[–] prole@beehaw.org 8 points 8 months ago

Source: *gestures broadly at everything*

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What other explanation would you have for the endless pursuit of growth if not capitalism? What other explanation would you have for larger companies pushing smaller ones out if not capitalism. I'm talking both the "why" but also the "how"? Consider the mechanisms of how a company such as Wal-mart can go into a small town and drive everyone else out of business. And then consider why they do it.

[–] eveninghere@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Please check what a definition means.

[–] prole@beehaw.org 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You seem to think if it's not explicitly in a dictionary, then it doesn't define a word. That's not how the real world works.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

Yes, this is what I was trying to explain. It isn't printed right there in the dictionary because it isn't the formal definition. It's just how it ends up actually working.

There's countless other examples too, where the formal definition and what it means in the real world don't fully line up.

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Run your own business. It'll change your view. You seem to be narrowly talking about public companies in the stock market who have pressure to increase their stock price. That's not your local restaurant or auto repair shop.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

I'm sure the people running businesses when Wal-mart came into their town and pushed them out have a better understanding than I do.

Those small local businesses may not be growth-driven, but they still have to compete against companies that are. And the odds are very often stacked against those small businesses, though some of them are able to successfully carve out a niche.