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Pride should stem from good personal decisions or accomplishments given one's situation and life circumstances. Being born somewhere isn't a decision nor an accomplishment.

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You can be proud about your country. You can be proud about everything that makes your country special. Your food, your traditions,... Why shouldn't you.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because you did nothing to create any of that. Appreciating one's country especially certain aspects of it seems like a good idea. Being proud of it makes no sense. Most countries have some ugly shit in their past. Proud of that too? Not sure you get to pick and choose.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's nothing that necessitates that you can only be proud of things you have personally done.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unless you care about "meaning"

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca -3 points 7 months ago

There is nothing in the definitions of pride that necessitates it either, so yes including if you care about what it actually means rather than what you want it to mean. If you look up the definition of the word it includes multiple definitions of pride that do not require your own personal accomplishments or actions, and those are not new definitions. It's extremely common in the English language for a word to have multiple meanings depending on the context they're used in that may be connected but are not necessarily the same.

[–] 7uWqKj@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you’ve got no own accomplishments to be proud of, I guess you can do that.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sorry you are from a miserable area that has nothing to enjoy and take pride in. I'm from St. Louis originally, and despite it's many faults, history of racism, and 2 centuries of shooting otself in the foot i still am proud to be from there. The sports teams are my favorite, the Arch is a beautiful monument, and the free services such as the zoo, Art Museum, and Muny theater are all amazing municipal achievements that took the whole community to accomplish.

You can be proud of where you are from and be open about the faults and problems of that place. Civic pride isn't blind nationalism.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

...April fool's...?

[–] 7uWqKj@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Not sure if you’re being serious, but if you are, you’re perfectly proving my point.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social -3 points 7 months ago

LGBT+ people celebrate pride month for how they were born. Martin Luther King Jr, Rosa Parks, Frederick Douglass,and Malcolm X all took pride in looking like their parents. Ukrainians are proud of their country in the face of Russian invasion. Were all those people dumb for taking pride in something they had no control over?

It just seems to me that you are ashamed of wherever you are from and can't understand someone else having prode in their home