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Oldie but goodie.

Transcript: Tweet by the SRSLY wrong podcast. Content: "message to my enemies: when the revolution comes you're not just gonna get the wall, buddy, you're gonna get four walls, a roof, clean clothes, good food, education, and quality health care because that's what every human being alive deserves"

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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Imagine posting such a meme (and claiming you support anarchism) but being (or acting) completely ignorant of the paradox of tolerance..

The reason we don't have human rights for all is because of people with a vested interest in oppressing others and the systems they maintain, and most will never willingly just give up their power (yes, including the power to be one up from the bottom but being able to punch down at another marginalised group, eg immigrants).

Which is why there is zero room to tolerate bigotry and oppression, nor those who, given a chance to be better, still refuse.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I never claimed I was against self defense. I just refuse to accept the IDF's definition of the word.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Have you replied to the wrong person? If not, what the fuck does the IDF's definition of anything have to do with this conversation?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry if that flew over your head. I still refuse your premise that I condone the violence of bigots if I don't support stalinist death squads.

Defending against a bigot's violence is self-defense. Executions by death squads aren't.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Nothing flew over my head, you're just trying to muddy the waters.

I am the farthest thing from a Stalinist, and I am not in support of death squads.

What I am in support of, as I mentioned in my comment, and knew you would ignore (I went back and highlighted it for you), is giving them plenty of opportunity to stop being bigots (they get them every single day). But when they continue to refuse - meaning they are actively threatening the lives of marginalised people, I am no longer obligated to care for their safety nor tolerate their behaviours, which they openly declare they are willing to kill and die to preserve.

The fact that you and others here are more concerned for the hypothetical safety of the bigot in this thread than you are for the actual safety of the people they are an active and very real threat to, says it all really. You only support self defence on your terms, but you're not the one being threatened, so that's not how it works.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

meaning they are actively threatening the lives of marginalised people, I am no longer obligated to care for their safety nor tolerate their behaviours

Yeah. That's self-defense. I never claimed I was against self-defense (It's a meme, buddy).

The fact that you and others here are more concerned for the hypothetical safety of the bigot

Never said anything of the sort. Please stop twisting my words.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago

and claiming you support anarchism

Did you know there is an entire school of anarchism devoted to nonviolence?