stuff like this makes me so pissed that it's so difficult to get into leadership positions for most people, those with connections and money are free to fail upwards and ruin things, but the average joe can be the genius of our age and be stuck working at starbucks for minimum wage their entire life..

It's also frustrating that a lot of baffling corporate decisions aren't even excusable as being for profit, it's just some executive being a moron and no one stops them! If it was for profit i could at least feel nihilistic about it, but this is just corporations actively choosing to continue letting things happen that benefit no-one.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I always think about stuff like this whenever libertarians talk about how much more efficient corporations are than government. I'm like, "Have you ever worked for a corporation?" Organizations are just huge dumpster fires in general, because they're all run by humans.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're not dumpster fires because they're run by humans, but because they're run by unaccountable hierarchies. Humans are perfectly capable of running a sustainable and efficient operation if we only stopped to consider how better to make decisions collectively.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can you give some examples of well run organizations and the techniques they use? I legitimately want to know if it's possible to do better than most of our current governments, companies, and societies in general. This world is a mess and I have half given up on it ever getting better.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 13 points 7 months ago

Wikipedia - While the Wikimedia Foundation itself is hierarchical, it manages Wikipedia through a process of community-led governance. Every article is maintained by a community of volunteers who engage in open debate to decide on content moderation policies. Wikipedia remains one of the few popular websites to avoid the recent internet enshittification.

Food Not Bombs - An activist organization that serves free food. FNB has no central organizing body, instead operating as a loose-knit group of independent collectives who voluntarily cooperate and exchange information and resources with one another. One specific collective, "A Food Not Bombs Menu," has taken to coordinating the global activities of FNB collectives and helping people start new ones, but has no power over any others.

IWW - The Industrial Workers of the World, while hierarchical, ensures a hierarchy that is accountable to its' rank and file members by means of a robust democratic process, as well as the right of any member union or individual member to leave at anytime and go it alone.

There are many more, but it's late and it took me a while to pick out what I think are good representative examples of different ways an organization can be run well.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago

Reality is a team sport, to some people. All they know is loyalty to hierarchy. If you're below them and disagree, not only are you wrong, you are personally threatening them. Reasons do not exist.