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Same people who claim it's gods will if people die during a bad pregnancy, will thank god if they have a successful heart operation.
It's insanity pure and simple, it doesn't matter that it stems from religion, that only makes it religious insanity.
Yep. Thank God and give him all the glory, and not the team of surgeons who worked tirelessly to save your life.
Jesus take the scalpel
Bullet stays in lol
Aaaaaand the patient is dead, turns out Jesus is a really bad surgeon. And then they'll sue when it turns out relying on thoughts and prayers makes for a really shit healthcare system. Somehow they're unwilling to accept "it's all part of gods plan" as a malpractice defense either.
What do you mean, "Bronze Age carpenters don't make good surgeons"?
[1] What’s to say that someone getting an abortion isn’t god’s will?
[2] How can anyone really claim to know what god’s will even is in the first place?
Ironically, A rather conservative old school pastor I had growing up often told a fable of a guy talking to god for the first time. His boat was damaged and sinking after he struck a rock. About 30 minutes after another boat saw the damaged boat and offered him help and the guy waved it away saying "nah, God will help me." A couple hours pass and another boat sees his submerging boat and offers him help and he replys again "nah, God will help me!" Another half hour passes and the boat is under water and the guy is struggling to stay afloat. A third boat passes by and he waves it by again, "no, God will intervene!"
The guy asks God "why didn't you save me?"
God replies "I sent three rescues, what more could I have done?"
This story is exactly to impress on people that god is behind everything (works in mysterious ways), and you should thank god whenever you are helped by people. It's complete bullshit.
God didn't send any rescuers, that's delusional.
If you are rescued, thank the rescuer not god.
I think it does a better job at highlighting the flaw in thinking "God is behind everything." The guy that drowned didn't "drown of Gods will" he drowned because he was an idiot.
Remove God from the story and it stays the same. At least, that's what led me to figure out the whole concept of an omnipotent, omniscient, omni benevolent diety and a whole religion was BS.
If it worked for you that's great, but consider why? If they were talking, did god not tell him earlier. The story is stupid, if somehow that stupidity prevents people from relying on god, then fine.
But it seems to me it's more explaining away why god doesn't actually help, which is supposed to be "it seems like" god doesn't help, but you should believer that he does, despite there is no evidence of it.
Note that this story is generally told by the religious, not by atheists. And there's a reason for that.
I think you got the wrong takeaway from that story... The character of God rebukes the dead man for not accepting the practical help of other people. It's just framed as though God sent the rescuers to convince the "believes in miracles" crowd that no such things exist.
Consider a simple rewording: instead of "I sent you two boats and a helicopter" you read "Two boats and a helicopter came to save you." This solves your only hangup and doesn't even change the story. Your beef is with the aesthetic component, not the meaning of the story.
These morons don't realize that if there is a god, then that god created the doctors who invented the procedure. He created the pharmacologists that invented abortion pills. He made queerfolk. He made all the authors that wrote all the books that Moms for Liberty wants to ban.
These people are expressly trying to interfere with gods will. For that, I would think, they should be smote and sent directly to hell.
But, they haven't been smoted yet. Ipso facto, there is no god, and these people need to get a grip and let other people live their lives.
That’s pretty much my argument, yeah. Also, to the people who support Israel because they want to usher in the return of Christ: they’re trying to force god’s will. Do they not understand that god would be absolutely wrathful over their arrogance? There’s no rapture for them. Not that there will be a rapture in the first place, but that’s beside the point.
Abortion is gods will.
Says so in the Bible: Number 5:11-31