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I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

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[–] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago

I didn't read everything you had to say because who has the time for that, but wanted to respond to one thing that you said:

Whether or not you feel your vote is an endorsement, they will throw it in your face and treat it as though it is, without nuance. It is mentally excruciating to be told by political leaders YOU WANT THIS, YOU VOTED FOR US, as they carry out their most unhinged plans.

I am sure it has been like this forever, but never more blatant than in the last decade in the UK, with the most pathetic leadership on all fronts falling back on statements like this because they know they have no credibility.