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Wtf do you even think you're saying? That a sincerely held belief that religion is toxic is based on fake internet points? I hated religion long before we got online. Your comment is empty and stupid.
An actual atheist wouldn't care enough about religion to actively spend any of their energy hating it - so what are you really?
Why do you think being atheist means you're somehow free from the millions of Christians that surround you? Or the millions of x y z beliefs?
What will your next logical fallacy be? I'm not going to tell you what this one is.
Since they've already deployed their Scottish regiment, I'm guessing ad hominem
Idk if that's really a Scottish regiment
Seems a little Scots to me
Guys, I wanted them to struggle!
An actual atheist would realize they're surrounded by braindead ignoramuses who have been persecuting (read: killing) people who dare not to believe their story book magical-ghost-man was actually magical or a ghost, and probably not even real in the first place.
These same idiots are running and actively destroying the world around them. In fact, some of them intentionally do things to destroy the planet purely to spite the people who don't believe in their stories.
So yeah. We think about god. A lot. Just in a wildly different way than theists.
There are a lot of ignoramus things around to believe in... religion being only one of many - and not even close to being one of the worst. It seems to me that (so-called) "atheists" are obsessively concerned about not ticking merely this one particular box - but can be as perfectly open to the rest as any religious person.
Are you trying to say that religion is (somehow) responsible for our impending environmental catastrophe? Just a hunch on my part... but I don't think you're going to find many climatologists that will agree with you.
Yeah... I've noticed. All these (alleged) "atheists" spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about something they vehemently denies even exists.
That's the part I find so damn strange.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/11/17/how-religion-intersects-with-americans-views-on-the-environment/
Unclear if there's a causation but there is very much a correlation. I think there is a causation, these people think Humans couldn't cause climate change, or that God is ultimately in charge of it and we should just throw up our hands and expect "Him" to take care of it.
These people vote.
So yeah, in some way, religion is responsible for it.
Really?
That's it?
Sure... WASP ideology does seem to make WASP people more vulnerable to the propaganda of the free-market cultists that has been justifying the genocidal destruction and exploitation of our world - but blaming capitalist and colonialist "modernity" on religion is a stretch. A very, very long one.
Lol! So you don't fall for the whole "Magic Sky Daddy" stuff but when the politicians and their propagandists tell you live in a (supposed) "democratic" society it's hook, line and sinker time?
Don't tell me you rejected one set of fables only to fall for another one, atheist.
Why not? Give me a reason atheists can't get frustrated about religion holding back society in the past? Are you the one to define what an atheist is? Judging by your comments I'd argue you should be the last to do that.
Your proof of this?
How about you answer my question first. Who are you to decide what it means to be an atheist.
And if you really need examples of that you should read up on human history before you continue any aspect of this discussion.
No, no, no - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
If you want to blame the west's invention of white supremacism (for instance) on a Levantine carpenter's son that lived 2000 years ago you have your work cut out for you.
Yes let the religious nutjob preach about extraordinary claims
Why is it that every time I bring up white supremacy edgelord atheists start shrinking away like ice from a bonfire?
You are "rational" enough not to buy into "race science," aren't you?
And why is white supremacy relevant in this discussion?
White supremacy puts the "west" in "western civilization" - do you not see your atheism as an expression of (so-called) "enlightenment" values? Lol!
There can be no discussion of liberal values without discussing liberalism's fundamental relationship with white supremacism - and guess where your ideas of atheism comes from?
You're the only one discussing liberal values here. But you go shout some more in your vacuum. I'm bored of you now.
Your atheism only exists in liberalism-land, genius - unless you want to claim that your ideology was influenced by feudalism, perhaps?
No it does not. My lack of faith in a god has nothing to do with an ideology, because I don't need it to define me as a person.
Everything about you was birthed in a world drenched with liberal ideology - not even the Inuit and the Masaai gets to escape it's influence. And yes... it does define you as a person - whether you like it or not.
So - you were saying?
Does it matter? You twist everything to fit your narrative anyway so please take this comment and twist it once more.
Me situating your atheism - and every other belief you hold - within the fold of liberal ideology isn't me "twisting" anything. It's merely fact - what else are you supposed to be? Martian, maybe?
None of us gets to opt out of the world we were born into - but perhaps liberal consumerist "individualism" claptrap led you to believe that you could?
Yeah keep jerking yourself, all you do is prove the point of the post. You're so blinded by trying to be the smart cookie here you forget to actually participate in the discussion.
It has been fun though, you're good at reflecting.
So that's a "no-comment" on the whole "race science" thing, eh?
No surprises here.
As I said, you haven't actually given an answer to any of my questions yet you somehow want me to respond to some incident that happened to some singular individual 2000 years ago that you read in this singular book of fiction that you happen to believe in.
So no, no comment on that, I for sure care less about that then you care about downvotes.
You mean... questions like these?
You know... the ones you base on assumptions you can't back up with any proof?
I'm starting to suspect that really none of you are truly atheists - it's more like you are simply edgelords trying your best to be the opposite of religious people by merely fetishizing the non-existence of (insert religious construct here).
If true... do you think this is wise?
No, like how you get to decide what an atheist is. And here's a new one: can you make one singular response without any assumptions? Or have you read a history book anywhere in your life?
Actually, at this point, I'm not even sure what an atheist looks like - considering that I can't even be sure that I've encountered any.
Plenty. In fact, I've even browsed through some of the Greek classical stuff - you know, the works we only have thanks to Irish monks and Islamic scholars?
It's funny, because yet again you find yourself in the position to define who is and is not an atheist. Hey guys we don't need a dictionary to dictate how I personally define my beliefs, just ask this guy.
Again, no answers, just reflections
*Edit, I'm sorry my bad, there was a response in there. Good that you know History. So you have plenty of examples of religion being abused by people to do evil. So now you're asking me for examples, except this whole thing started with an example straight out of the box.
Lol! You need a dictionary to "define" your personal feels?
That's disturbing... but not surprising.
So that makes one of us, then... despite your pretensions to the contrary.
No, I'm asking you to back up your assumptions. Let's be perfectly clear about this... only one of us is basing their ideas on ahistorical assumptions.
What the fuck do you think I am. A pissed off atheist in a christofascist up-and-comer state. An actual atheist (me) would be mad at this bullshit and I am.
I'm taking you have a really, really good argument lined up to prove that Christ was a fascist and proselytized anything that we would today call fascism?
I'd say that an actual Christian would have a far better reason to be an anti-fascist than you do - but perhaps fake Christianity breeds fake atheism as well.
You're full of shit and I won't be party to it.
I didn't invite you to any parties, liberal.
Know your place.