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While rebutting another post here on Lemmy, I ran into this. This says exactly what I want to say.

I am not a friend of Biden's Administration. I think they drug their feet over a variety of things ranging from holding Trump and his goons accountable for January 6th through rulemaking on issues like OTC Birth Control and abortion rights, and yes, I think he's too quick to please big business. But then I remember what the alternative is, and ... well, disappointed in Biden or not, I'm voting for him. Because my wife is a Black bisexual goth woman, four strikes under Team Pepe's tent. And I have my own strikes for marrying her as a White dude, and respecting her right to not have kids since she doesn't want them is another strike against me. And I care about my Non-Christian, Gay, Transgender, and Minority friends, and will never willingly subject them to Team Pepe.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Democrats need to pull themselves together and figure out what people actually need and want. The bogeyman isn't a sustainable thing.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Exactly.

Imagine if Coca-Cola tried to shame or guilt people into buying Coca-Cola.

How would that work out.

The guilt tripping and shaming is going to backfire.

To win, you have to inspire people to actually want to vote for you.

Otherwise, they just might not even bother showing up.

[–] capital@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if Coca-Cola tried to shame or guilt people into buying Coca-Cola.

Now imagine there are only 2 possible choices and Pepsi is going to further reduce the control the women in your life have over their own bodies, and other fucked up shit.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow you're doing the thing from the comment you're replying to 🫡

[–] capital@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It was a shit analogy given the vast options for soda and the whole 2 options we have for president. Grow up.

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago
[–] Spaceballstheusername@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Problem is they know exactly what the people want (socialized healthcare, corporations to be held accountable for their actions, to break up monopolies, affordable housing, seriously address climate change, safe food and water, not supporting genocide) only problem is vested interests don't want that. So the Dems need to figure out how to balance those two things by appeasing the powerful interest and paying lip service to the voters.

So the Dems need to figure out how to balance those two things by appeasing the powerful interest and paying lip service to the voters.

I mean, that's what they're doing now, right? "Oh, we all want to do these things, but the big mean republicans won't let us do them, we're just smol beans who can't help it, we couldn't possibly kill the filibuster or reform the court, it's our birthday, why do you hate us?"

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They know what we need and want they just never have had a supermajority for more than 10 minutes. Our stupid ass elections are always on the razors edge lately so we have around 3 asshole ~~Republicans pretending to be Democrats~~ Democrats in the Senate that just squash anything that would benefit us at the expense of more wealth hoarding at the top.

Listen to Democrats running and listen to Republicans running, only one of those groups rely on "hate, hate, hate, be afraid, hate, those people are different and I'll stop them!"

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's been the case for over a decade now and there's still a filibuster. And the court is still only 9 justices. I submit they don't want to solve it. They don't want to catch the car.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I believe it's those same 3 "Democrats" that are the ones that prevented the change to the filibuster. "Totally not corrupted by his own business interests" Mancin is one I remember for sure was against it. There definitely is a contingent of Democrats that "don't want to catch the car" but I think they're the minority. With our stupidly thin margins that minority controls the agenda unfortunately :(

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to get past the filibuster to get rid of the filibuster.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 2 points 6 months ago

No, but you do need enough votes that the people who like the status quo can be overriden. The last time that was the case was the brief period between 2008 and 2010 where there were 59 (and a 3-week window where they had 60) democrats in the Senate, and during that period McConnell's "block everything and don't give Obama any wins at all" strategy wasn't fully apparent yet, so there was no appetite to get rid of the filibuster because it hadn't yet been so widely abused. Then the 2010 midterm came in and democrats went from holding 59 seats to 51, and we've been stuck with Manchin (and later Sinema) having effective veto power on the Democrat agenda ever since.