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[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

~~Obama is not a practicing Christian, and he was the 44th presidency. But Grover Cleveland was counted as 2 separate presidencies, so only 42 people before Obama were president of the United States. But if "43 of them" is referring to presidencies and not individuals, it holds.~~

Trump and Biden also both identify as Christians too, ~~bringing the total to 45 presidencies out of 46, and 44 out of 45 people who have been president of the United States.~~

And to be especially nitpicky, a few early presidents are speculated to have been atheists or deists, not Christians.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You do not count Obama, but count Trump?!!

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Trump CLAIMS to be Christian. ~~Obama doesn't. I respect self-identification.~~

Edit: I apparently also live under a rock and am totally wrong about Obama identifying as Christian later in life. I had only ever heard the anecdotes about how he was raised secular and assumed he was reasonable enough to remain that way

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

In January 2008, Obama told Christianity Today: "I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life."[110] On September 27, 2010, Obama released a statement commenting on his religious views, saying:

I'm a Christian by choice. My family didn't—frankly, they weren't folks who went to church every week. And my mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew, but she didn't raise me in the church. So I came to my Christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead—being my brothers' and sisters' keeper, treating others as they would treat me.[111][112]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Religious_views

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

Obama absolutely identified as a Christian, what are you on about?