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[–] lledrtx@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

We've had 45 presidents no? Is he leaving out 2 or did he say this during the 43rd? If he is leaving out, who are the 2 based ones?

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This quote is from the past.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So what you're telling me is that time is linear? Let me just ask my buddy Gilgamesh real quick for his thoughts

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago

Ironically, Gilgamesh's battle against mortality would have been for naught had he known of the possibility of our limitless overlapping of spacetime capability.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

Mitch: every quote is from the past. Have a quote from the future? Wait, let me see that.

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Considering he says 43 consecutively, that would imply either the first two or last two were not Christians. We know that's not the case, so it's safe to assume it's just a quote from before Trump became president.

Edit: though I'm pretty sure Thomas Jefferson was famously not a Christian, so it isn't true regardless.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

~~Obama is not a practicing Christian, and he was the 44th presidency. But Grover Cleveland was counted as 2 separate presidencies, so only 42 people before Obama were president of the United States. But if "43 of them" is referring to presidencies and not individuals, it holds.~~

Trump and Biden also both identify as Christians too, ~~bringing the total to 45 presidencies out of 46, and 44 out of 45 people who have been president of the United States.~~

And to be especially nitpicky, a few early presidents are speculated to have been atheists or deists, not Christians.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You do not count Obama, but count Trump?!!

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Trump CLAIMS to be Christian. ~~Obama doesn't. I respect self-identification.~~

Edit: I apparently also live under a rock and am totally wrong about Obama identifying as Christian later in life. I had only ever heard the anecdotes about how he was raised secular and assumed he was reasonable enough to remain that way

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

In January 2008, Obama told Christianity Today: "I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life."[110] On September 27, 2010, Obama released a statement commenting on his religious views, saying:

I'm a Christian by choice. My family didn't—frankly, they weren't folks who went to church every week. And my mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew, but she didn't raise me in the church. So I came to my Christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead—being my brothers' and sisters' keeper, treating others as they would treat me.[111][112]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama#Religious_views

[–] metaldream@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

Obama absolutely identified as a Christian, what are you on about?