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We have received numerous reports from users about the closure of the c/android community. While we fully support the original community owners' decision to move to another instance, it will eventually be necessary to open up the community on Lemmy.world. The beauty of the fediverse is that multiple communities on the same subject can exist in different instances. However, if you can no longer moderate a community on Lemmy for any reason, it is important to pass it on to individuals who are willing and able to do so.

To ensure the best interests of our instance members, it is necessary to establish boundaries. Holding onto a community name cannot be a permanent arrangement. It's important to consider our users' ongoing interest in the community if they wish it to continue. While we acknowledge the objective of consolidating communities, current community members ultimately decide whether they wish to join the new community at lemdro.id.

To ensure a smooth transition, we will keep the community locked for another week, providing ample time to inform the active user base about the move to the new instance at https://lemmy.world/c/android@lemdro.id.

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[โ€“] Jz5678910@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The mods from r/Android started their own Lemmy instance called lemdro.id. Among the communities they opened was c/Android. There was already an Android community on Lemmy.world the was active with 15k+ subscribers.

The mods decided to merge with the communities and move over to lemdro.id in the hope to fight fragmentation. They locked the Lemmy.world instance to keep as an archive. And now we're here.

I'll add the post they made in bit.

Edit: https://lemmy.world/post/1117612

[โ€“] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You forgot to mention that they literally asked no one here if that's what we wanted and arbitrarily closed the community like a Reddit mod would typically do and the whole fucking reason we all came here to avoid in the first place.

[โ€“] Jz5678910@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, you're absolutely right. I wasn't happy about it either, but I was just answering objectively.

[โ€“] Synthead@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Anyone can be a moderator. Only a small handful of people can be good moderators. And a small handful of those good moderators act selflessly for the benefit of communities instead of making the communities their pet.

[โ€“] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Thank you, the mods in question explicitly doubled down on the fact that the lemmy.world members deserve no say in the matter and that Reddit's holy "moderator discretion" needs to be respected on lemmy.world too. Everyone needs to understand that it wasn't a community that "moved", it was a single moderator who decided to move. You just cannot call it a "merger" in that case no matter what obscene power moves Reddit allowed in the past.

[โ€“] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't the android mod team here have multiple mods? If only one decided to move then why didn't the others keep the community open?

[โ€“] ijeff@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both of the moderators supported the move to consolidate and their announcement thread was widely upvoted.

[โ€“] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't call around 400 upvotes, with almost 100 downvotes, as "widely upvoted" when other threads easily got thousands, after forcibly closing the community and leaving only that thread up there. If anything, the fact that after almost 2 weeks of you obsessing over the upvotes, since you brought it up multiple times, it got such a pathetic upvote count despite shutting down any critique by closing the community is another blow to you. You're grasping at straws and you should give up defending this shameless power hunger move that is characteristic of Reddit. Your move was forced by one single mod who himself admitted it, end of the story.

Since you love obsessing over the upvote counts, the comments denouncing your power hunger on Reddit when you decided to ignore android@lemmy.world and create a duplicate community in the beginning got thousands of upvotes, but since they were inconvenient you deleted them all.

Also, still to satisfy your obsession over upvotes, this thread got 200 upvotes, almost no downvote, in only 2 days. We all can see why 1- no one really wants to go back to powertripping Reddit mods and 2- why you needed to force the closure, as you knew no one would voluntarily join you anyway.

It's really bad taste to still intervene here with an alt after what you and the other mod did. What you did and how you still defend it to this day is just shameless.

[โ€“] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You know what else is characteristic of Reddit?

Immediately launching into assuming any moderator is horrible and organizing some kind of conspiracy, not ever acknowledging that people could be acting for a reason other than malice.

[โ€“] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Malice or not, the fact that Reddit mod supporters keep dodging is that the closure was literally forced by one single mod.

You're grasping at straws to defend the undefendable here. c/android should have never been closed by one mod. The lemmy.world android community should have never been forced by one single mod to become a redirection page to another community on a completely different instance that's mostly moderated by Reddit moderators who kept deleting comments with thousands of upvotes on r/Android that called them out when they decided to create a duplicate community instead of joining this instance's community.

I'm calling out the hypocrisy of jeff who seems to obsess over the pathetic 400 upvotes and calls it being "widely upvoted". Him still intervening to still spread his lie is insulting, especially given that he's the one who kept deleting the highly upvoted comments on r/Android.

[โ€“] Synthead@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The mods decided to merge with the communities and move over to lemdro.id in the hope to fight fragmentation.

I get the fragmentation thing, but it's Lemmy. Fragmentation is kind of the point. I think closing the community, while something the creators can freely choose to do (as long as the instance owner is okay with it), it's not a very democratic decision. Make the other instance better and give users the right to choose.