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[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The problem isn't actually just that China takes our data, it's that they control the algorithm on tiktok for what users see, thereby giving them the ability to manipulate the public.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah! And that's only a privilege for white oligarchs! /s

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Would you rather a hostile foreign entity do it instead, who have vested interest in sewing destructive chaos as a goal, though? That's the alternative.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I mean, there's a third alternative where manipulating us is illegal for anyone

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree, wish this was the actual goal but it's going to be hard to pry those rights out of their hands.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

if they were rights everyone would have them.

[–] card797@champserver.net 1 points 8 months ago

That's just too vague to legislate. Stop talking to everyone because you're being manipulated non-stop by everyone you know.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We don’t need a “hostile foreign entity”. Trump is doing that just fine all on his own.

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What about Biden signing in the new spying bill recently that enhances wiretapping of US citizens?

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I completely missed this one. Gross.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 months ago

Since we're not denying that white oligarchs do it too, then giving consumers a choice as to which manipulated information they see is better than having just our goverment decide. Sowing chaos isn't inherently bad - law and order exist for the purpose of establishing justice, and when they fail in this purpose they become the dangerously structured dams that block the flow of social progress.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The US is terrified of the public becoming anti capitalist and anti colonialism which is what's happening. THEY want control of the narrative like they've had for decades so they can control the message.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Then they completely missed the cause and effect. China didn't need to do anything. We're radicalizing people every day with economic gaslighting, medical debt, school debt, housing costs, and grocery costs.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Can't blame them. Late stage capitalism is causing a lot of people a lot of pain while a few get super rich from it.