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"Every previous president would have ended it by now."

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[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it's literally double speak: war is peace, voting for genocide is antigenocide.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are two options: 'some genocide', and 'a lot more genocide'. The race is close, so if not enough people vote for 'some genocide', 'a lot more genocide' will win. 'No genocide' is not one of the options. Do you vote for 'some genocide', or do you assent to letting 'a lot more genocide' win?

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm going to vote for a candidate that wants no genocide.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As I said, 'No genocide' is not one of the two options that's going to win. The race is close, not voting for 'less genocide' only helps 'lots of genocide'. So you're helping 'lots of genocide' beat 'less genocide', congrats.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

voting against genocide doesn't help genocide. this is pure doublespeak.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Voting against genocide doesn't reduce genocide. In American elections, the only votes that have an effect are those for one of the two front-runners. Any other vote is an admission of equivocation of the two front-runners. The two front-runners are 'some genocide' and 'lots of genocide'. Equivocating the two means you think 'some genocide' and 'lots of genocide' are equally acceptable. Q.E.D. you accept lots of genocide.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Equivocating the two means you think ‘some genocide’ and ‘lots of genocide’ are equally acceptable.

no. i don't find either of those acceptable. that doesn't make them the same. it just means that neither of them meets the bar of acceptability.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately the American electoral system is not ranked choice, so "bar of acceptability" isn't a functionally meaningful concept. In American elections, the situation is as I've described above. Refusing to choose one of the two primary options functionally means you find both primary options equally acceptable.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

duverger's "law" has no predictive value. it's a tautology as empty as "supply and demand".

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

“bar of acceptability” isn’t a functionally meaningful concept.

it is in ethics

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Any other vote is an admission of equivocation of the two front-runners.

false dichotomy

[–] Hamartia@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Loving your dauntless energy. Nothing gives a bully the shits quite like looking them in the eye.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

always happy to be of help where i am needed.

[–] bobburger@fedia.io 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Will that actually help reduce genocide or just satisfy your need to be self righteous?

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

I don't believe any vote will reduce genocide. ballots don't stop bullets.