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Ah sorry, I misunderstood you. Yes they count as a search.
I don't think you can compare pricing to Google. They make profits by combining any payment with selling your data for profit. There is no way Kagi can compete with that since they don't sell your data.
To me, search is the most important thing I use the internet for. I just think it's reasonable to pay a good competitor that doesn't sell your data and provides excellent search. But if you can't pay them, of course that's fine. Maybe you need 10 dollars for something else. But for me, Im not in the financial zone where I even miss 10 dollars or notice it's gone.
I like this framing. That might help me come to terms with their cost 👍
It's honestly why I'm paying for it.
I also pay for email for the same reason. :)
For email, Fastmail is just excellent. I use their email aliases function a lot. So you can one-click generate an email to use when you sign up on a service and when you don't use that service anymore, delete the email address.
Makes it impossible for them to sign you up on advertising lists since you can just delete that email address if they annoy you.
Me too. That's probably the easiest comparison and one of the reasons I struggle with Kagi's pricing. I get Proton's highest paid plan for less cost... and that includes all their products, mail, VPN, 3TB cloud storage, and clearly doesn't sell any of my data since they don't have any access to it. Not to mention that my paid plan subsidises free users. (Assuming I upgrade to Kagi Unlimited which it definitely looks like I will be.)
I do the same thing, but with a catch-all email. Only started doing that this year and it makes such a huge difference when signing up for services!
(I know that Proton has a similar one-click service, but I worry about some scenario 10 years in the future where they decide to shut it down and I have to migrate all my logins.)
That's an apples to oranges comparison. Proton is not a web search engine.
Edit: But for email, sure. :)
Sure, but the perceived value for my money. Hence why I appreciated the "search is the most important thing I use the internet for" comment.
Ah yes.
I also worry a bit about all these email aliases I use now. They do tie me to fastmail for the future. And if they would disappear, it would be a pain to replace. But that's life. Have to take some risks. :)