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Yes.
I could afford food and shelter.
And when I had employment based health insurance, I could afford the co-pay.
None of the 3 are true today.
So you don’t have employment based heath care today? What happened?
I do.
And it is neither affordable or available.
The healthcare I need.
Do you... not know how this is a pretty massive thing these days?
Your comment implied that you had lost your insurance because you no longer had a job.
If you can’t afford healthcare, be mad at the for profit companies making massive profits off of health care and companies who’ve stagnated wages since Regan.
But don’t be pissy at a president who advances healthcare in this country. The ACA did a LOT of good for MANY people.
No, my comment communicated that while I still have insurance, I cant get the medications I used to get, the copays have risen to what treatment used to cost, and the cost of treatment has become a guaranteed bankruptcy without said insurance.
ACA did not substantively change the healthcare system. It just loaded a fine onto not paying for healthcare if you are not employed, and forcing every unemployed American to pay for personal health insurance emboldened the healthcare system to start charging 100 dollars for "solid hydration therapy" aka: a cup of ice, to get all that extra money out of the insurance companies.
It was an epic failure. An epic failure comitted while not addressing minimum wage, row v wade, or a myriad of other things BOTH PARTIES have done to us, while we are meant to believe its just the Republicans doing it.
There’s no point in discussing this further as you’ve already made up your mind.
Those with pre-existing contions that used to be FUCKED are very grateful for the ACA.
Don’t hate the players; hate the game. Be the change you want to see and get the profit out of healthcare.
Have a good day and I hope things go better for you.
You're right.
I dont buy your horse shit.
Those who existed before ACA remember what effort it took to give Dems that stage, and also remember what a waste of effort that was.
It made American Healthcare worse. And none of the other things that "its Republicans fault" advanced.
The 2 party system is broken. 15 years later, it's even more broken.
Your Dem vote doesn't help fix that. Rep votes don't help fix that.
Stop being part of the problem.
Please.
Register independent. Vote third party.
I said good day sir!
You could afford shelter…during the 2008 housing driven financial crisis? Everyone could afford shelter…until the system collapsed. That was kind of the whole problem. I fail to see how the ACA being passed caused your housing and food prices to go up.
Glad that you had employment based insurance. Before the ACA if you didn’t have insurance through your employer and you had conditions you were just fucked. They could deny your coverage. I guess you forgot about that?
Insurance is fucked because we’re finally paying the cost of care, rates and prices are fucked and broken across the board, and the insurance companies are savage vultures. None of that is BECAUSE of the ACA. It was all true before the ACA and is true now. The difference is millions more people have healthcare coverage.
So the ACA was a half measured failure of a waste of time.
Yes.
That was part of the point I was making.
Dems decided to do that instead of passing actual universal Healthcare, or minimum wage, or modifying Roe v Wade. Or addressing the rising cost of rent/mortgage. Or do ANYTHING of value.
That is the point I am making.
Yeah I guess the GOP is blameless for all that right? Seriously the amount of leeway you people give the republicans is wild. The democrats are to blame for those things? The GOP voted unanimously against the ACA in all its forms and tried for a decade to repeal it. But sure the democrats not going far enough was the grievous sin.
You are wonderful at goalposts moving and refusing to stay on track. Just all the other Fascist Dem Shills.
This is a conversation about Democrats failure to increase minimum wage during their supermajority, but instead they spent all the time fining broke unemployed Americans for not being able to afford health insurance out of pocket.
Both parties have created this situation.
That is what I am saying.
"Vote blue no matter who, no matter what genocide, and everything will magically get better" is horse shit, and recent history shows that.
God forbid anything help anyone if it's not perfect. What a privileged fucking outlook on life. Some of us have to live here, yeah?