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What are your opinions on Just Stop Oil? (lemmygrad.ml)
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Been seeing a lot of outrage thrown at them recently their protests and been seeing a lot of people trying to disrupt these protesters for “disrupting” them and that they could cause inconvenience to emergency services but at the same time,I feel as though these actions are necessary sort of to better spread the message since the bourgeois media is going to turn a blind eye to it. So, since I’m not really familiar with the whole thing, I want to see what you think of them.

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[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not about leadership. It's about production. Do you think a socialist society will magically immediately invent a way off the oil hook? Sure, the incentives will be better. Gas guzzlers will go away. Materials, however? Unlikely.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course it’s about leadership. If the present leadership pushes oil, then guess what companies and people are going to use?

Also what do you mean “invent”???

Last time I checked we invented the nuclear reactor in 1943, and renewables have been around for decades.

Also there are many many substitutes to plastic in the world. They just aren’t used because plastic is cheaper. Make plastic less cheap? Well now the other materials look very very nice in comparison. Other then extremely niche cases, what materials cannot be substituted away from plastic? What roles can recyclable metal, paper, or plastic-like bio-film, not fill?

We could cut oil consumptions by factors of magnitude over the course of just a few years.