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[–] Seraph@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Understood, but don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

We just need to improve not perfect.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We just need to improve not perfect.

The one issue with this way of thinking is that since changing such a fundamental system is typically (and, imo, understandably) quite difficult, one doesn't want to squander the opportunity with an arbitrary decision (I'm not accusing you of making an arbitrary decision, I'm just stating generally), as having another chance is unlikely. Furthermore, experimentation on a mass scale, i.e. country-wide, is generally not a wise idea. One should be firm in their convictions for the decision that they choose to support. It's possible to cause considerable damage within the edge cases.

[–] Seraph@kbin.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're right, best deliberate about which one is best instead.

Experimentation? New Zealand, Ireland and Australia already stage elections using forms of RCV.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You’re right, best deliberate about which one is best instead.

Aha, well, up to a point. Certainly worse to be stuck deliberating while society rots away under FPTP. There is certainly truth to your original point of not letting perfect be the enemy of good.

Experimentation? New Zealand, Ireland and Australia already stage elections using forms of RCV.

Interesting. I wonder how prevalent the issues were that I mentioned earlier. I also wonder what type of ranked ballot they use. I'll have to look into this more. Would you have any good sources for studies looking at the outcomes of them using that voting system?