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Dude, that's exactly what I'm saying. It's not going to work if he doesn't win over the progressives.
We are arguing the same thing. I'm blaming Democrats for it, and you are blaming the voters for it.
From my perspective, Biden is going to lose because Democrats refuse to appease their constituency. From your perspective, that constituency just has to suck it up and deal with it. We are very much both frustrated by the same reality.
My perspective is the election is in 6 months and Biden isn't going to solve Palestine in those 6 months and voters aren't going to solve Biden with no means to do it.
Leaves one option. That option is stop trying to suppress turn out and stick around after inauguration. I wish you were here in the last 3 years when it was absolute crickets.
Again, we are fundamentally agreeing on the same idea. Biden is our nominee. He's the best we have to work with, so he's got to be putting in the effort as to not lose.
We are not going to get anywhere in this conversation because we are agreeing. We just have different solutions.
I find it kind of funny that you think Biden is incapable of moving on any issue at all. I'm actually the optimist here. I think he's capable of it. It's almost like you know how crappy of a candidate he is, but don't want to admit it.
I've been raising the flag on Biden for fucking 3 years and the second the election is on the line people are out here suppressing voter turn out. The window has past. You gotta be thick.
Buddy, Ive been sounding the alarm far longer than that. Clear back in thw days before Lemmy. Im just telling you he's going to lose because he's unpopular, and must become popular to win.
Thats democracy baybee.
Mhmmm how popular was Trump in 2016. How popular was Biden in 2020.
You do what you think is right but I didn't see your ilk in 2017, 2018, and 2019. Very fucking convenient for you to show up now.