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[–] beardown@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There is not evidence that conservatives will support him

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trump has the support of party officials but actual conservative voter support is still soft. They really do prefer a Romney type. But they'll vote Trump over Bernie. A "moderate" like Biden can pull a bunch.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

actual conservative voter support is still soft.

That is really not true at all. He is beloved by the base and is exactly what they want

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Well yes, that's the definition of a base group in politics. Ideology and party do not equal base though. For some reason it's rare to find polling like this connected to candidates. Usually it's issues polling or party loyalty polling.

So what you're looking for in this case is the "leans right" category. That's soft support for conservatives and the Republican party. The actual base is going to be aligned with the next group over. Which is typically around 33 percent. Translating that into likely voters is hard because those 33 percent are going to show up if they can. The leans groups are the ones that might not show up or could be convinced to vote the other way. Assuming of course they're between the two parties and not on the far ends.

We can see also how strong his support is in the primaries. His biggest Challenger was DeSantis at 20 percent. That's not great news. But Haley ran a specifically anti Trump campaign and gathered 6 percent at her highest. That's good news. That says there's 6 percent of conservatives, people who normally vote Republican who could be lured away or kept home with the right marketing.

It doesn't seem like much but have a look at how close our elections have been recently. 6 percent in the right states could swing the election. And that's not counting the independents and lean left groups. Now we look at the 3 states the democrats need, PA, MI, and WI. Nikki Haley actually had 12-26 percent in those 3 primary contests. So those are also vulnerable voters the Democrats can go after in the three states they actually need.

Disclaimer I haven't had my coffee yet today so if anything is confusing just please ask questions!