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Newsmax host Carl Higbie went on a tirade on Friday after former President Donald Trump was convicted by a Manhattan jury the day before.

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal hush money payments to cover up extramarital affairs. Trump was concerned the affairs would come to light and harm his presidential aspirations. The Republican freakout has been swift if not predictable. Despite their outrage and indignation, some conservatives insist that being a convicted felon will help Trump’s chances of returning to the White House in November’s election.

During Friday’s edition of Frontline on Newsmax, Higbie demanded congressional Republicans drop everything and go after those involved in Trump’s prosecution.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago (4 children)

As I've been saying, the people on the political left need to get strapped, they need to train, and they need to organize. Laws and cops aren't going to protect you, esp. when most cops are on the side of Trump. All of the laws trying to ban guns and prevent most citizens from owning them are going to do is make it ever easier for the boot of the authoritarians to crush you.

You need to take that power back, and remind the police that they only get to enforce laws by the consent of the people.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Who says they already aren't? We just don't make it our entire personality.

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

"Speak softly and carry a big ass stick", or something like that.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some are. Most aren't I'd wager. Believing in the rights of other sentient beings typically tips you into the camp of not wanting to kill things.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Also we’re more likely to be aware of and accounting for mental health issues and so hesitate to bring a gun into a house with someone who shouldn’t have one. I want a firearm for self defense, my wife has depression and seeing as the whole goal is to keep her safe I do so by not having a gun

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Liberals classically respond with calling you a MAGAt, insisting that "they have drones", ask why you think you'd have a chance against the worlds greatest military, and a bunch of other silly bullshit statements that show that they have no understanding of anything that is happening around them, what the problem is, and have zero knowledge of history as they tell you that violence never solves anything.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

I go to 2-3 shooting matches every month; I'd go to more, except that ammunition prices are expensive. I talk to people. I'm not some kind of closet leftist; I wear this shit on my sleeve. (Quite literally in the case of some of my morale patches.). I see the stickers, patches, and shirts that other people are wearing, and I hear them talking; their politics are clear. I expect that the next 2-gun match I'm gonna hear a lot of people angry about Trump rule 34.

Going to shooting matches as someone that's pretty far left on most issues is like being in enemy territory. On the rare occasions that I get to make it to a match that's mostly populated with people that are on the political left, I feel like I can finally breathe.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Statistics are pretty clear, more than twice as many Republicans own guns than Democrats.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/249775/percentage-of-population-in-the-us-owning-a-gun-by-party-affiliation/

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Or you could just drive two people under 30 to the polls.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Where I live, the odds are about 90% that anyone under 30 I was driving to the polls would be voting for Trump.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

So, mass murder...? Isn't that what Newsmax is tacitly calling for, just in the other direction?

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.

Lucy Parsons

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Prove it. Just because it is a catchy doesn't mean it's true.

Look, voting is made difficult for certain segments of our society for a reason. It takes actual effort to make it run badly. My district is affluent White+Asian and voting is super easy. The district next to mine is almost 100% POC and each and every election there are stories of multiple hour long waits there.

This is not an accident. This is systemic and it has been systemic since about 1865. So when I hear people argue that voting doesn't matter I ask why it really seems to matter to multiple generations of the powers-that-be. Why do people in the age of Twitter and the age of telegraphs consistently have the same view? Well when I see that I usually conclude because the facts havent changed.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Prove it. Just because it is a catchy doesn’t mean it’s true.

You've cited the proof yourself. The wealthy have made sure that voting is just as hard as they can possibly make it in areas that aren't poor, or won't vote for the interests of the monied class.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Right but you were talking about the future impossibility before

[–] UnpluggedFridge@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Or I could invest in skills that benefit me and society while using my vote to push government policy towards outcomes that benefit humanity.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Por que no los dos?

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

That's what community defense is, my dude.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Those of us on the actual left already are. It's those that think they are on the left that wont