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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

all money is a social construct used to represent an abstraction of value added through labor.

That's the definition of money. It's not fake. It is an abstraction, but it's not fake, and we've built an intricate system of laws and regulations about it.

Bitcoin is fake money. It's not backed by any government or any real rules and regulations. It's the same as every other "tech" company. Take an existing thing, remove all regulations, pretend it's a new thing, and pocket the increased revenue.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

government backing only defines money under Adam smiths theory, but we had money and governmentless money long before smith.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And there was a different government backing it (though not in the same sense of the word) and a different set of laws and regulations around it.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you've swallowed the adam smith koolaid. anarchist societies existed with money.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

if you want to deny history, i'm not going to stop you, but you should be ashamed of misleading anyone else who reads this.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm ashamed that anyone is dumb enough to be taken in by your obvious lies.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

accusing me of lying doesn't make it so. i've been right this whole time.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Money existed before there was an intricate system of laws and regulations. Money existed before there were fiat currencies, backed by nothing except a gov't's promises. The fact that bitcoin doesn't have those doesn't make it any more real, or less real, than any other thing used as currency. It has value because people believe that it has value.

Gold is much the same way. Gold has an intrinsic value for making things that conduct electricity (particularly because it doesn't corrode), but all other values exist because it's both relatively rare, and people have decided that it's pretty.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Money arose at the same time as government. The two are linked.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

Currency existed prior to governments; Native Americans in some areas used rare shells as a form of currency; the currency wasn't a part of their governing process, and by any modern standards, their governments were very loose.

[–] VictoriaAScharleau@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

that's not true.