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[Meta] !movies@lemmy.world mod removing comment suggesting consolidation of that community with this one as their moderation community is spread too thin, thankfully modlog is public (reddthat.com)
submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Blaze@reddthat.com to c/movies@lemm.ee
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Link to the modlog: https://reddthat.com/modlog/11298

Link to the community: !movies@lemmy.world

Edit: for context, I first sent a DM to the single mod asking them if we could consider merging communities (basically my comment below). They ignored me but opened the thread.

My comment

Should we maybe consider merging this one with !movies@lemm.ee ? We have regular pinned posts and movie-specific discussion threads over there, and that community has been more active than this one lately, be it weekly or monthly (1.54k vs 1.32k and 2.92k vs 2.51k). The moderation team has several people, including movie enthusiasts who post there regularly. We had our first AMA a while ago a few weeks ago: https://lemm.ee/post/31335226 And if people ask why we wanted to have a community on another instance than Lemmy.world, the large majority of active communities are already on LW (https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active), it seems better to spread communities a bit.

Reason for removal

Not currently considering this action Maybe in the future.

I guess I'm just a bit sad that they removed the comment altogether instead of letting it there and considering a discussion.

I've heard several times that Lemmy should consolidate communities (like what happened with !mapporn@lemmy.world and !map_enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz recently), but I guess it's easier said than done.

In the meantime, congrats for making this community the most active one!

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who are they trying to have a discussion with? The users of the community whose mod already told them they weren't interested? If I were that mod I'd've deleted their comment too

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who are they trying to have a discussion with?

I think it's fair to presume a decent amount of overlapping users, especially given how many use the All feed.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Sure, so why not advocate in this community for combining the two, rather than targeting the users in that other community and complaining about the mod in that other community?

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, I can't speak for Blaze or the other mods at all ... but this community (or at least Blaze and kinda myself) has already done the merging thing, and at that time it started with a conversation with the other mod. As this community has gone through that before, it makes sense that the idea is reasonable to (at least) the mods here, while the other community might be alien to the notion.

Beyond that, part of the motivation is to get more communities off of lemmy.world, which is an ideal felt pretty widely, if not universally, around lemmy/threadiverse ... so the suggestion was always to get them to merge with here (where, again, we've done the same before, forgoing this community to merge with another). So yea, talking about it here could have made sense (which is what this post is also about TBF, but also like I said, some neutral space for such discussions probably also makes sense), but I don't think talking about it there is a bad idea at all, rather I think it made sense, where, again, I just struggle with the notion that mods on lemmy are competitively trying to poach users from each other.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, well put.

some neutral space for such discussions probably also makes sense

!fedigrow@lemm.ee could be it

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Probably ... I'm personally not subbed to fedigrow and that would be the problem, that most aren't either (which is fine, many are happy to just use the platform).

Perhaps something more dedicated to community discovery and recommendation instead? Basically like the "new communities" community, but more general.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then I guess we should just promote !newcommunities@lemmy.world more.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, yea ... I don't know if the mods there would be happy for it to become a general community discussion/promotion space ... but I've thought from the beginning that that was coming as a natural evolution anyway. There should at least be a sibling community for discussing communities (though perhaps on a more neutral instance given that lemmy-world have banned some communities AFAIU?)

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I posted there in the past following the !moviesandtv@lemm.ee drama, including links go the modlog and everything, the mods let the post untouched:

https://reddthat.com/post/12944886?scrollToComments=true

We can always give it a try and move if needed.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com -2 points 5 months ago

This community has been created to avoid overcentralization of Lemmy.world.

Also, if the LW community was actively managed I wouldn't mind (I regularly post to !avatar@lemmy.world, !lego@lemmy.world, !comicbooks@lemmy.world which are on LW), but they still don't have

  • discussion threads
  • weekly threads

Consolidation of communities is an issue that is regularly brought up on Lemmy, so that's what this whole suggestion was trying to address.