I think originally it tried to be a Facebook alternative, but over time it developed into a personal cloud space of sorts. I would agree with the comparison to Nextcloud as of 5 years ago, but these days they pivoted into the enterprise space and isn't that nice for home users any longer.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Does Hubzilla have CardDAV and CalDAV support? I'm using NextCloud for calendar and contacts primarily, would be interesting to try Hubzilla as a replacement if it's feasible.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes and WebDAV support.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 5 months ago

Nice. Thank you.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Sorry to bother you again, I was starting to look into Hubzilla and my brain started hurting, because I can't understand how you federate contacts, calendar and file hosting. That said, I started looking into the contacts and calendar thing and this came up

Hubzilla and Nextcloud both offer features for managing contacts and calendars, but they cater to different needs:

Hubzilla focuses on social networking and doesn't have built-in calendar or contact management features. However, some Hubzilla servers offer integrations with third-party calendar and contact apps.

Nextcloud excels at personal cloud storage, including contacts and calendars. You can store your contact information and calendar events on your own server, giving you complete control and privacy over your data.

Is this correct?

[–] chris@im.allmendenetz.de 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

@sabreW4K3

Hubzilla and Nextcloud both offer features for managing contacts and calendars, but they cater to different needs:

Hubzilla focuses on social networking and doesn’t have built-in calendar or contact management features. However, some Hubzilla servers offer integrations with third-party calendar and contact apps.
Nextcloud excels at personal cloud storage, including contacts and calendars. You can store your contact information and calendar events on your own server, giving you complete control and privacy over your data.

Hubzilla has a build calendar and has a contact management, also a personal cloud storage and gives you complete control and privacy over your data.

[–] chris@im.allmendenetz.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@sabreW4K3
Maybe we can put is that way:
Hubzilal is focused on social networking and has also a could storage

Nextcloud is focus on providing a cloud storage and has also social networking features...

you get it ? the focus ist different :-)

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 5 months ago

I ended up watching a few videos and now I understand. Danke!

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Well, for various reasons I stopped hosting my own Hubzilla instance some years ago, but back then it absolutely had CalDAV and CardDAV. The problem was mainly that this wasn't well exposed in the Hubzilla web-interface, other than an event calendar. But with Thunderbird and DAVx5 etc. you could connect to it and manage it just fine. The WebDAV file storage part worked fine in the web-interface as well.

Edit: these parts are not federated though AFAIK (contrary to Nextcloud which does have some kind of file-sharing federation).

[–] chris@im.allmendenetz.de 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@poVoq

Sure - Hubzilla has file-sharing functionality... but the files stay on your could....

The magic and real power of Hubzilla however is that you can share permission and access rights across Fedi Servers...

so even the files stay on your server you can "federate" access all over the Fediverse ... you can´t do that with Nextcloud

With Nextcloud you can share with an Email account holder - with Hubzilla you can share with an Fedi account holder

@sabreW4K3

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's true that Hubzilla has access permissions for files on your WebDAV folder, and those access permissions sort of federate to other Zot protocol using sites (but not the wider Fediverse), but Nextcloud also has its own inter-Nextcloud federation where you can access files on other Nextcloud instances right inside your Nextcloud.

[–] chris@im.allmendenetz.de 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

@poVoq

those access permissions sort of federate to other Zot protocol using sites (but not the wider Fediverse),

there were improvements done in the last years... so with the OCAP function ( /settings/privacy ) and guest tokens ( /tokens ) we can share permissions for files across the Fediverse ... and even to people who do not have a Fedi Account jet

come back on board and have a closer look

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah, good to know, thanks for the correction 👍

I don't really have a need for most of the features Hubzilla offers, so I think I'll stick to my Akkoma instance. But I encourage people to check out Hubzilla, as it is a neat project overall.

[–] chris@im.allmendenetz.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@poVoq Akkoma? i thought you found your home on Lemmy?

I saw your avatar years ago a lot in Hubzilla posts...

Akkoma and Hubzilla are different because of the permission system and all this other CMS functions.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I use both Lemmy and Akkoma, but yes I used to be quite active on Hubzilla when I ran an instance of it.