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[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 92 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Im skeptical a fair bit of time about those congressional 'lefties' but this is true, for the most part they're doing what they can. What I do like most about them is when they show up outside of a legislative capacity, like showing up at strikes or going to meet unions. I think many people discount how important that boots on the ground work is. Imagine being a franchise owner of something trying to snuff out union efforts knowing you're gonna have US Lawmakers who agree with your workers physically there with the workers. You better come correctly in that situation.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just want to point out that they only showed up in support of the current labor movement after immense pressure was put on them after failing to support the historic Amazon JFK8 union drive. AOC and politicians like her still have to pushed, sometimes hard, to do the right thing.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They show an ability to learn from their mistakes, at a minimum. Can't be said for all.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry man I just fundamentally disagree and feel like you are ignoring/undervaluing the role grassroots organizing plays. This is pure political pressure, not a reevaluation of policy.

I say this specifically because as soon as you give a politician the benefit of doubt and remove that political pressure they stop "learning from their mistakes".

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh I agree with you and am biting my tongue to not talk about how disappointed people like them made me when it came to the railroad unions and strike in this thread simply because at the end of the day through mistake or other means nymag got it right that they do indeed do thing that have an impact.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't bite your tounge! These are not people to revere, they are there to represent their constituency and it's our responsibility to constantly push them to do so and righteously criticize them when they fail to act. Articles like this and bite your tounge comments are antithetical to a healthy democracy.

I don't give a shit if AOC cried when she voted to increase the military budget for apartheid Isreal. All that matters is she was a deciding vote and Palestinian people are dieing because of it.