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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

Hello all, this is the first post in a series of posts I'll be making weekly to drum up some diverse discussion relating to all different aspects of gaming. I figured I would start with what I know, and so the first topic is thus: roguelike games. (If you think any of the below description is wrong or misleading, let me know - that's part of the discussion!)

The name of this genre is derived from the game Rogue, released in 1980. The exact definition of a roguelike has been a topic of discussion for a long time, but the core tenets are usually agreed upon to be random/procedural generation and permanent death (no saving and continuing a run, you have to start over). Many roguelikes have an additional increased focus on collecting items and assembling a "build" over the course of a run. A "pure" roguelike is often claimed to have no meta-progression (that is, no procedural unlocks) and focus more on the journey than the destination - seeing how far you can get, or how high a score you can achieve, rather than reaching a distinct victory condition (not that these games don't have victory conditions, but that it isn't the end-all-be-all). The secondary term "roguelite" is often brought out to describe games that deviate from this. Additionally, the term "traditional roguelike" is sometimes employed to indicate a more strict adherence to the older style of this genre, with grid-based dungeon crawling and high complexity. Ultimately, as with a lot of genres, pinning down a 100% ironclad definition is near impossible, but most people that like this type of game could tell you the general "vibe" at a glance.

Here are some questions and subtopics that I encourage people to discuss:

  • What are some of your favorite examples of roguelike games?
  • What roguelike games do you think stand out in terms of defying the conventions of the genre?
  • Do you find there to be a meaningful difference between the usage of "roguelike" and "roguelite" nowadays? Which do you prefer? Where does the "traditional roguelike" fit into this?
  • Do you continue to play roguelike games after reaching the "end" / reaching 100% completion? Why, or why not?
  • What other genre do you most often enjoy seeing paired with roguelike?
  • Is any game with procedural generation and a run-based structure a roguelike, or is there more to it? Where do you personally draw the line?
  • What have been some of your best runs across all roguelike games? What's been memorable?
  • Are there any upcoming roguelike games you're excited for?

Also feel free to bring up anything you like related to the topic! If you have suggestions for future discussion topics, leave them in the suggestion thread.

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[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I played Rogue a lot back in the day. Also Hack a bit.

Shattered Pixel Dungeon is a fantastic roguelike. I've been playing it for years. The developer is great about updating it and adding new content and adjusting the mechanics. There is a community for Pixel Dungeon over at !PixelDungeon@lemmy.world

[-] TheSpookiestUser@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Proper link structure for a Lemmy community is !PixelDungeon@lemmy.world - this should work!

And I also have played SPD quite a lot. Despite it being free, I tossed the developer a couple dollars - they've been doing great work with it, a whole new class was added not too long ago. I'm only now picking it up again after some time, and I've only beaten the game with 2/5 characters, so I got a lot to learn to get good at it again.

[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you! Fixed my link.

It's a tough game. I managed to beat it with all 5 characters, but that took a while. Now I'm working on beating it with all 9 challenges enabled. I'm dying so much 😭

[-] theJWPHTER88@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I concur, too. So far, I have conquered said dungeon with at least 3 character types in 6 differing runs; the most fun I had fun so far was the Huntress herself, for in one of those winning run, I chose the Warden's path, coupled with the Nature's Wrath armor upgrade. It made most of the lower levels bloom in grass and all sorts of seeds that probably upped my farming time by a couple of turns.

Such a badass force-of-nature run that was.

Also, Sprouted PD has a sublevel every 5th or 6th where it's all hidden forest and mobs.

[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Sprouted PD is great! Lots of fun if you enioy grinding. The Wand of Amok is great in the lower levels.

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