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Idk how to embed audio to Lemmy but imagine it playing on the background lol

Lazlo bayne - I'm no superman

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[-] feedmecontent@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Systemic ableism is the problem, not "having to deal with being neurodivergent". Otherwise there would be no "solved" state. Though a solved state is pretty easy to get a decent definition of: A state wherein neurodivergent people have a equal outcomes in each area with respect to their neurotypical counterparts with the same base aptitude in the same subject matter, regardless of the differences in the path needed to realize whatever that aptitude is.

Now, that said, that only describes something that is lacking. I haven't even heard of an education system that doesn't specifically punish neurodivergent behavior, which, worse than something that is missing everywhere, is a negative that is present everywhere. So let's call eliminating this a compromise solve.

As far as the ethnocentrism argument and it only being relevant if it's solved somewhere, well, I guess the poor construction of that would be: "The ethnocentrism argument is only valid if there is an example of the problem being completely solved." which I guess you sort or addressed effectively and I may have sloppily implied by accident. What I really was trying to say though, was, "The ethnocentrism argument only applies to this specific observation if you have an example of a school system to which the observation does not apply." which I still stand by and still doubt you have such an example.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago

I disagree with that last characterization. I think the ethnocentrism only applies if there is an example to which that observation applies less than to the reference example.

Because that was my original question, if you go back to that: which system is the cartoon supposed to depict?

Because if the answer is "all of them", then there is no way to define a gradient that we want to be moving towards. The movement is going to be relative to a starting point. So I don't feel I have a onus to prove that there is a system to which the (very generic and simplistic) observation doesn't apply. My point stands if it doesn't apply to all systems equally or to the same degree.

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