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[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can't be in the left and support the status quo, especially if the status quo is leading to a genocide. Pro-genocide solidarity isn't acceptable. Sitting there and accepting it isn't acceptable.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Who's supporting it? It isn't me. I'm absolutely ready and constantly pushing for things to change. However I have yet to see anyone especially concerning this topic actually suggest anything that will help. It's just a bunch of shit talking arm chair quarterbacks with no solutions.

Go ahead though. You seem like you've got this all figured out. Tell us all your simple easy solution. And explain why it will have the impact you think it will. Explain to us why it is worth demotivating votes for the only non-fascist really running. And what your contingency is should the actual full-on fascist and his party regain office. This should be a cake walk for you. After all it's not like Generations around the world including Palestinians and Israeli have managed to not find a solution after all this time.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

People are doing it following the same models as earlier movements, like apartheid in South Africa. Protests at the universities demanding divestment, the BDS movement, pressuring with lost votes and the "no preference" vote, educating the public about the wrongs of settler colonialism, apartheid, and genocide in general and Israel history more specifically, reporters in Israel are doing their part (not the US propaganda ones), World Food Kitchen workers and other aid workers risking their lives being martyred, the and people pressuring to withhold their vote without a change in policy, too. He can easily recoup these votes by not aligning with Israel, so strategically its making the moral option the politically best option.

People have grandparents who can see the homes they had that Israel stole. It's not like the conflict has been around that long. There's no solution because Israel doesn't want a solution, they want all the land. They can sustain this uncompromising attitude because they have the support of other imperial powers like the US. Without its help and veto in the UN, Israel would be screwed. It's not as complicated as the conflict seems, it's part of Israel propaganda to make it seem more complicated than it is, to pretend it stretches back millions of years and not just to the 70's or the 40's.